Griffin also sucks, so that's a factor.
Griffin also sucks, so that's a factor.
@philly dont see any team making a better package then that unless the kings just really wanna tank and boston is willing to move jaylen brown and marcus smart + picks.
the better the raptors play the even more less likely your crazy ass trade will happen
That makes no sense lol. If jonas and ross play well youd expect them to be worth more..
No, because people aren't dumb. They aren't going to pay extra for what they can probably get through the draft.
Ok so one your assuming sacramento isnt dumb and two you think two young nba rotation players on very good long term contracts is replaceable through the draft?
There is a pretty big benefit to having players like ross and valanciunas locked up during a rebuild because they could potentially be peaking when and if sacramento cashes in on the process. With boogie on that team sacramento isnt getting a top 5 pick. With valanciunas and ross, you can tank with players who you know are already solid nba contributors and build a winning culture around them.
You can easily make a case for trading boogie for real nba ready depth and picks or you can go full "trust the process" mode with boston and aquire jaylen + picks imo. Dont see any other team with enough assets to aquire boogie, but sacramento would be dumb to keep him beyond this year imo.
Your problem is that you over value your team's players.
there's a word for that....Originally Posted by Sanosuke
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Maybe I just dont understand basketball markets like I do baseball markets, but I think I made a fair case as to why a team might value our young pieces. The raptors have the best nba ready depth in the NBA right now and its not even close. I can understand people arguing why boston or another team has more resources to trade for boogie, but you cant argue that jonas and ross arent significantly valuable pieces. Both are young, on cap friendly deals, and both have shown signs that they would benefit from having larger roles. Jonas especially.
As far as me being a homer is concerned, I think you know me well enough by now or at least have read enough of my posts in these sports threads (sano) to know im a fan of the sports before teams. I may have a small bias for the raptors right now because they dont get enough love from you guys (lowry 〉kyrie）, but I can recall two years ago in the alcs against the royals saying that the royals were a better team when everyone was saying toronto was a juggernaut. Homers dont make those kinds of comments. I would invite you to engage my comment with a more challenging argument then spence you're overvaluing your players but if you really think im just a crazy homer I guess thats cool too.
Ross and JV are nice, but they aren't center pieces, especially since both are about to be getting paid. Also, unless things change dramatically their ceiling isn't as high as you think. They look nice now with Demar and Lowry, but they arent even good enough for second star status.
Also, both have been incredibly inconsistent, especially for star status. You really think JV is worth 100+ million? Because that's what it is going to take.
One other thing, a true NBA superstar is worth a tremendous amount. Boogie is a superstar. Yes he's a bit of a knucklehead and his teams have been bad, but i believe that's more of a product of a terrible organization than Boogie. No team should ever move a superstar unless they feel he won't re-sign.
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