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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles View Post
    I have to admit, I think I was wrong about what I posted about the Red Sox. Any old school fan who watched them before they finally won in 2004 is always super skeptical about getting their hopes up about them just because we were always raised with the Curse of the Bambino thing and they always fucked everything up in the end... but they're absolutely killing it the last few weeks. The comeback last night against Tampa Bay was ridiculous. They went from being down late in the game to crushing them.

    We're all just worried now they'll refuse to resign Mookie Betts. This ownership, with the exception of the Yankees, has the most money in baseball. And they've done it with no brainer resigns before, like Johnny Damon. They just bleed Fenway for money and let incredible players go constantly. If I were a betting man I'd bet we end up losing Mookie Betts once his contract is up because the way he's playing, he's going to end up demanding a king's ransom worth of money.

    The only thing that concerns me is that they more or less gutted their whole farm system. They're definitely all in, I mean look at how they're playing, but they have to win now because there's absolutely nothing left now for them to follow up on and unless they spend a boatload of money on trades there's an inevitable dry spell coming a few years down the road as they traded basically all of our top prospects.
    I would highly doubt the red sox fail to resign Betts. I think at this point hes the new face of the franchize and the red sox have historically treated their BEST players very well (ortiz/pedroia) until their mid - late 30s.. justifiably so. That being said, there is a small reckoning (in terms of player payroll) coming and this red sox team is probably the best possible team you're going to see for the next couple years. Dombrowski is notorious for gutting farm systems in order to go for high impact players, but this is how you win championships. Even Theo has fucked up the cubs system in order to maximize his world series chances, it's what you do when its the right time to go for it or you're trying to extend your window of contention.

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    They'd trade him before losing him

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    The Red Sox aren’t going to trade or lose Mookie Betts. Spencer is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulky View Post
    They'd trade him before losing him
    I can't imagine they'd trade him, as he's one of those players where there's not much worth trading him for he's so wildly talented.

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    The Red Sox aren’t going to trade or lose Mookie Betts. Spencer is right.
    I hope you're right. Like I said, I don't think they'll trade him, I just know this ownership from living here and they do have a history of refusing to resign no-brainer amazing players.

    I guess from the perspective of someone from Boston with access to more local media and the physical ballpark - a lot of us want the owner John Henry to sell. I'm not saying they're not all in now, they obviously are. But he's fucked up with not paying managers and players for years if you look at it in a macroscopic sense. Johnny Damon, Jason Bay, hell - he gave up arguably the best GM in baseball in baseball history who ended the Red Sox drought AND the Cubs because he wanted his idiot rich friend to have more decision making power and Theo was like "I ended one of the two most historic World Series droughts in baseball history." And Theo was right, it was all him, he built everything for 2004, 2007, and even though he was gone, the team that won in 2013 was largely all his doing.

    John Henry has more money than god, and he was all in for 2004. But the way Fenway Park has transformed has made it almost unrecognizable. He just added a bunch of high end food and branded the team super well, and turned it from a baseball park to a tourist trap. It's obvious to all of us old school fans here that he got his World Series, he created a product, branded it, and now it's more for sight seeing for tourists than it is for local baseball fans. It's the most expensive park in the MLB to go to in every regard - tickets, food, drinks, memorabilia - and that's actually a fact. So he's content with the team being just good enough to being playoff contenders because it will keep interest and maintain cash flow, but he doesn't give two shits if they win, he, as I said before, basically just turned Fenway into a giant ATM machine for himself.

    So with their history of letting great players go under this ownership, I don't know Hugh and Hulky, I could totally see them letting him walk if he asks to get paid. The evidence is on my side, they've done it an unreal amount of times despite having a ton of money to spend. I hope I'm wrong but I'll bet you they lose him. Especially because the Yankees are willing to pay anything and just throw fistfuls of cash at players.
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    If Mookie wanted what he deserves which is probably Harper money and the RedSox for some reason had no intention they'd just trade him

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    That'd be even worse IMO. He's beyond valuable and there's nothing out there worth trading for him. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong, I just know this team. They'll let him walk, they always do. If they win this year he's out the door guaranteed. They'll have made their money and he'll end up in New York.
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    Baseball stadiums are almost all going that route. I think its kinda nice to have the stadium rejuvenated and modernized. New generations of fans want craft beers, local/gourmet restaurants, daycare and various other family activities in the stadium. The days where you go to a stadium with your family to simply watch a baseball game are gone, so you're seeing stadiums add things like this to the stadiums to draw more casual fans and families.

    The blue jays ownership actually has the most money in baseball if we look at the networth of the rogers family (much more then John Henry or Hal Steinbrenner) and there exists a laundry list of things that need to be improved on the stadium but ownership simply refuses to budge on.

    This ownership bought the team in 1995 for pennies proceeded to destroy the team that had just won 2 world series back to back and dominate most of the 1980s. From their they continually missed the playoffs for 20+ years and swiftly undid the team after making the playoffs for 2 measly years in 2015 and 16

    In 2005, Rogers purchased the Skydome renamed it the Rogers centre, and have not made any notable renovations or refurbishments since then. They've sold out to maximize profits at almost every possible chance, they're in the process of gutting the team's payroll and are butting heads with our team president because he's trying to get them to spend money on needed stadium renovations and refurbishments. The stadium is (I believe) one of if not the oldest stadiums in baseball not to have undergone any serious renovations, and their are whispers that theyre looking to sell the team. Makes sense, because the estimated minimum reno costs for the stadium are in excess of 500 million dollars... so we'll see what happens to the team. It would be absolutely criminal of rogers to sell the team at this time, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

    Here are two interesting articles about stadium fan experiences.

    https://www.reviewtrackers.com/fan-s...ball-stadiums/

    https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/introd...erience-index/

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    What? The Rogers Centre was built in 1989. It's far from the oldest stadium in baseball. It's also the ugliest stadium in baseball in my opinion.
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    Oldest in baseball that hasnt been refurbished or upgraded in any way. It is exactly the same as it was back then besides general maintenance and repairs.

    Fenway has seen many upgrades over the years and so has wrigley.

    In terms of oldest stadiums in general, 1989 actually is one of the older stadiums in baseball.

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