TAO Top 100

[DivineLeft]

Dude, I remember Big X. I always wanted to beat him. He was one of the toughest for me. I think I was like 0-4 against him.

First off. LOVE your signature!

Second.. He was good. Much better legends player for sure he is still around on tao-facebook and si-facebook. He actually said hi the other day, all around good guy .

[|AFO|]

I've fallen a lot in that list haven't I? I think I was around 60-s before.

If you guys want to add few accomplisment under my name than I was around 2008 highest grey in legends with ~1850 (until Stiv passed me in 09). 2nd highest in 2009 when legends went down: http://legends.taorankings.com/ranki...k&display=gray

I was SI's one of main leaders in Legends and later one of the leaders in GL. This one might sound bit arrogant but I together with Matzer, Toniselius and Jonspen (who got us to join SI) put SI back on the map in Legends. SI was pretty much a sleeping giant back then in Legends but we rebult it to one of the major clans again (of course with the help of all the recruiters and members). This is the part I'm most proud of my so called TAO carreer (not the stats I gained on my accounts or tourney wins or anything else but rebulding SI in legends).
All the hours we spent in playing new ppl, recruiting, promoting the clan in Legends forums and working on our section in 4thfactor. I think one of the reasons SI got so big (again) in there too was cause of our recruiting system (had to play many recruiters and pass recruiting poll). It was hard to get in which showed quality. Even if you had high stats and great skills but had s*tty attitude, you didn't get in.

I didn't participate very often in tourneys because I'm from Europe and it was hard to arrange tourney games with most top players being from totally different time zones. I remember playing most of my tourney games late at night with having to go to school (and later to work) in the early morning. Fun times.

Yeah man. Logging on to all those accounts to never play on them must have taken a lot of hard work from you four. I am trolling you.

[DivineLeft]

50 of thems are noobs. Good effort put into the list. Nice descriptions.. Could help with some of the backgrounds likes Quicks and others..

In awe some of those people are even listed.. Kinda .. insulting to some of the better players.. solid top 8-10 for sure though.

[manonfire101]

50 of thems are noobs. Good effort put into the list. Nice descriptions.. Could help with some of the backgrounds likes Quicks and others..

In awe some of those people are even listed.. Kinda .. insulting to some of the better players.. solid top 8-10 for sure though.

Thanks. Which players do you think I left off who deserved to be here? I'm always open to changing this a bit, but you're going to have to really sway me.

Entries for Quicksand would be great, or for any older players. Master of the Blade, Tcbb would be great.

[Greendaybum5]

Thanks. Which players do you think I left off who deserved to be here? I'm always open to changing this a bit, but you're going to have to really sway me.

Entries for Quicksand would be great, or for any older players. Master of the Blade, Tcbb would be great.

I think it should be changed to include me don't really wanna make a case for it besides the fact that I'm better than lots of people towards the end of that list haha!

[manonfire101]

I think it should be changed to include me don't really wanna make a case for it besides the fact that I'm better than lots of people towards the end of that list haha!

I might. You would deserve it. You were always a pretty solid freestyle player.

[Greendaybum5]

I might. You would deserve it. You were always a pretty solid freestyle player.

people forget in like PSST2/3 I was a turtle player

Also before the changes to the game limiting the wisp and the GA I had that solid rush set with Scout-3 knights- Scout then Wisp GA and Mud on the right flank. It was awesome.

[Achilles]

50 of thems are noobs. Good effort put into the list. Nice descriptions.. Could help with some of the backgrounds likes Quicks and others..

In awe some of those people are even listed.. Kinda .. insulting to some of the better players.. solid top 8-10 for sure though.

This. So much this.

I don't even know how this could be done without asking the '03ers, as TAO basically had different eras in terms of game play. You'd really need to ask people who were there from the onset to get a vaguely accurate opinion on who was the best. The problem is that you're dealing with eras in terms of the early evolution of the game. I was easily top 5 for the whole game when turtles were still the go to, and BEFORE the mudquake was added, but then after the game changed drastically and I wasn't all that good and Monkus more or less took over. Then DM rushes came into play once Rev went up, then the Furgon negated it, then all out rushes took over.

Point being, you'd need to ask people who were there at the onset, and even so, you couldn't really produce a definitive list.

[|AFO|]

Point being, you'd need to ask people who were there at the onset, and even so, you couldn't really produce a definitive list.

I mean... that's really all there is to be said about doing something like this. If you all have suggestions, you can always post more names. I think there's something about being one of the first great players.

[manonfire101]

I’m going to repost this Top 100, mainly because I like The Butcher more than I dislike the people who are complaining. If someone besides Cliché could confirm that Tcbb and Bobcat are the same person, I’ll take one of them off. To be honest, 29 and 18 isn’t a huge difference since you’re splitting hairs with a lot of these players. I’m actually kind of happy I had them that close together considering I haven’t played either in a very long time.

50 of thems are noobs. Good effort put into the list. Nice descriptions.. Could help with some of the backgrounds likes Quicks and others..

In awe some of those people are even listed.. Kinda .. insulting to some of the better players.. solid top 8-10 for sure though.

So which of the 50 players on this list are noobs? Please list them for me. I’m pretty interested to hear your rationale for calling those 50 players noobs considering you probably didn’t play many of them when they were at peak form.

And which great players did I omit? I’m sure I left off a lot of deserving players but I haven’t heard any names mentioned. I mean, if you’re just commenting that this list sucks, that’s fine. But if you actually want me to amend it, I need to know why a particular player deserves to be on here.

This. So much this.

I don't even know how this could be done without asking the '03ers, as TAO basically had different eras in terms of game play. You'd really need to ask people who were there from the onset to get a vaguely accurate opinion on who was the best. The problem is that you're dealing with eras in terms of the early evolution of the game. I was easily top 5 for the whole game when turtles were still the go to, and BEFORE the mudquake was added, but then after the game changed drastically and I wasn't all that good and Monkus more or less took over. Then DM rushes came into play once Rev went up, then the Furgon negated it, then all out rushes took over.

Point being, you'd need to ask people who were there at the onset, and even so, you couldn't really produce a definitive list.

You say you were “easily” a top 5 turtle player before the mud quake was added. Well I played in 2003 and I don’t remember you being a top 5 turtle player, or anywhere close to that. Darkness and Bludz (who both helped me with rankings) also played, maybe not as early as 2003 but certainly in the earlier years of TAO, and neither of them made mention of you. But I can’t remember ever playing you, so I can’t say for sure. So for the sake of argument let’s just say that you were. That would mean that you were good at playing a particular style of turtle during a pretty non-competitive era of the game for a short period of time. You were, as far as I know, not good at any other styles, and couldn’t figure out how to play with or against a mud golem after the mud quake was implemented. That doesn’t sound like a description of a top 100 player to me by the criteria that I was using when I made these rankings. It doesn’t sound like the description of a top 100 player by any reasonable criteria actually. And it definitely doesn’t sound like the résumé of a player who should be calling anyone on this list a noob.

I do agree, though, that it’s impossible to come up with 100 players for this list and make everyone happy - different eras, different units, different levels of activity, subjective criteria, etc. But I did play in 2003, and I did ask other people who played during different eras. I spent months browsing through TAO tournament history looking at records for fps vs legends tournaments, Pssts, Grand Slams, and other tournaments. I looked at tournament history and server rankings on legends. I made a huge list of more than 500 players to choose from, and I had 3 other people helping me when I actually started to rank the top 100 players. Then I revised those rankings. Then I revised them again. Then I revised them again. Then I revised them probably about 10 more times before actually posting them on forums. The point is, I did spend a lot of time on this, and I did ask other players, and I did try to use criteria that I thought was reasonable. And this was about the best I could do.