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[Sanosuke]

Unpopular opinion: Derek Carr doesn't deserve to be the highest paid player in the league.

[Hulky]

Aaron Rodgers deserves to be #1, but that's the problem with setting the standard with a long term deal - the cap improves and your deal becomes the baseline. Rodgers probably will reclaim #1 when he's up. Cousins, Stafford probably use Carr's deal to negotiate. I'd think Stafford becomes the top paid player, because who else are the Lions paying, he's due for contract, he's still young, has insane stats and comeback success in current system.

[Sanosuke]

My thing is body of work needs to define paychecks. Carr is great for the raiders. Just think that he needs another season or two for that kind of monehy

[Hulky]

My thing is body of work needs to define paychecks. Carr is great for the raiders. Just think that he needs another season or two for that kind of monehy

Carr:
year 1: 58.1% 3270yd 21td 12int
year 2: 61.1% 3987yd 32td 13int
year 3: 63.8% 3937yd 28td 06int
$25,000,000 avg in second contract

Wilson:
year 1: 64.1 3118yd 26td 10int
year 2: 63.1 3357yd 26td 09int
year 3: 63.1 3475yd 20td 07int
year 4: $31,722,469
year 5: $12,342,000
year 6: $12,600,000
year 7: $15,500,000
year 8: $17,000,000
$17,832,893.8 avg in second contract

2015 (year of Wilson's 2nd contract) salary cap: $143.28 million
2017 (year of Carr's 2nd contract) salary cap: $167 million
roughly a 16.5% increase

and 17.8m to 25m is roughly a 40% increase

Carr did good lol. Prolly should have gotten about $21m a year to match inflation, but that could also just mean Seattle has Wilson on a discounted rate.

[Darkness]

Carr is a stud for sure. The contract is expensive, but top-notch quarterbacks can almost command whatever they want at this point. While Carr sets the market now, the upcoming quarterback contracts will surely follow suite and the difference between having Carr versus an above average QB is surely worth the extra millions. IMO, if you have a quarterback that you believe can carry your franchise for years to come, then you lock him down for whatever the price is.

[Sanosuke]

Carr:
year 1: 58.1% 3270yd 21td 12int
year 2: 61.1% 3987yd 32td 13int
year 3: 63.8% 3937yd 28td 06int
$25,000,000 avg in second contract

Wilson:
year 1: 64.1 3118yd 26td 10int
year 2: 63.1 3357yd 26td 09int
year 3: 63.1 3475yd 20td 07int
year 4: $31,722,469
year 5: $12,342,000
year 6: $12,600,000
year 7: $15,500,000
year 8: $17,000,000
$17,832,893.8 avg in second contract

2015 (year of Wilson's 2nd contract) salary cap: $143.28 million
2017 (year of Carr's 2nd contract) salary cap: $167 million
roughly a 16.5% increase

and 17.8m to 25m is roughly a 40% increase

Carr did good lol. Prolly should have gotten about $21m a year to match inflation, but that could also just mean Seattle has Wilson on a discounted rate.

One won a super bowl. Can't do anything about Carr getting hurt but I don't think Oakland makes it past NE or ATL anyways

[bludhoundz]

Oakland won a ton of close games last year. That's a tough thing to replicate. I think they're a good young team, but I'm not all in.

By the way, I know that it's generally accepted that the NFL Top 100 is a joke. But there is something this year that bugs me... and yeah call me a Giants fan or whatever but I'll be totally honest with you this isn't even about division beef. I'll also admit it's not the dumbest thing on the list by a longshot but it does really bother me. The fact that Ezekiel Elliott was ranked above David Johnson and Le'Veon Bell on the Top 100 is pretty fucking absurd to me. I have no argument with him being in the top 10, he's a great player. I really do believe he's an excellent player and I'm not trying to take that away from him. But if you throw on his highlights or the highlights of one of the other guys, watch the difference in how many wide open lanes he has to run through, and how much more effort the other two put into making big gains. Le'Veon has a pretty good O Line himself but David Johnson was practically a one man show... ridiculous that he was left out of the top 10. This is just more media sensationalism at its finest, and the Cowboys having a bigger fanbase showing through here. And like I said you can try to call me out for being biased here or whatever but I take no offense that Odell Beckham is the 3rd WR on the list. If anything I'm more flabbergasted that David Johnson is outside the top 10, but there's no way Elliott was a better player than these other 2 guys last year. If you wanna project him ahead going forward I take no issue, but man I really get sick of the big media markets getting all the love sometimes

[Hulky]

Yeah Wilson won a SB but SB really hasn't been priced into QB contracts. Like Dalton never won a playoff game either and he got basically 100 mil. Brock wasn't worth starting and got 4y/72mil. Sam Bradford made over 25mil his second year in the league lol.

[Hulky]

Oakland won a ton of close games last year. That's a tough thing to replicate. I think they're a good young team, but I'm not all in.

By the way, I know that it's generally accepted that the NFL Top 100 is a joke. But there is something this year that bugs me... and yeah call me a Giants fan or whatever but I'll be totally honest with you this isn't even about division beef. I'll also admit it's not the dumbest thing on the list by a longshot but it does really bother me. The fact that Ezekiel Elliott was ranked above David Johnson and Le'Veon Bell on the Top 100 is pretty fucking absurd to me. I have no argument with him being in the top 10, he's a great player. I really do believe he's an excellent player and I'm not trying to take that away from him. But if you throw on his highlights or the highlights of one of the other guys, watch the difference in how many wide open lanes he has to run through, and how much more effort the other two put into making big gains. Le'Veon has a pretty good O Line himself but David Johnson was practically a one man show... ridiculous that he was left out of the top 10. This is just more media sensationalism at its finest, and the Cowboys having a bigger fanbase showing through here. And like I said you can try to call me out for being biased here or whatever but I take no offense that Odell Beckham is the 3rd WR on the list. If anything I'm more flabbergasted that David Johnson is outside the top 10, but there's no way Elliott was a better player than these other 2 guys last year. If you wanna project him ahead going forward I take no issue, but man I really get sick of the big media markets getting all the love sometimes

A lot of Oakland's issues last year (and the year before) were that we couldn't stop TEs. Hopefully Obi Melifonwu will help with that, we also added a very good rookie corner in Gareon Conley if Sean Smith takes a step back, but either way it let's the Raiders have CB depth to not force Sean Smith to poorly match against guys like Brandin Cooks. Basically every TE hosed Oakland, and if Obi is half the player most people think he is that should improve. Also Raiders played most of the year without our second best defender Mario Edwards.

To the Top 100 thing, I think it's voted on by the players not the media. Like obviously the players hear in the media, but they also actually played against the guys and have the videos.

[bludhoundz]

Yeah but JJ Watt was #35 or somethin

lol thats way dumber than the stuff I was complaining about