TAO Fantasy Football 2021

[bdog1321]

sup nerds. we doing this?

[Hulky]

Yes it was renewed a few days ago did you not get the email?

[bdog1321]

Yes it was renewed a few days ago did you not get the email?

Ur an email

[Hulky]

burnout gave his spot to wizzy and Ill make that switch when I get Wizzy's email

Butcher and Hugh made the least transactions last year, but still made some so it's not like a year we had someone just autodraft and abandon. I won't replace anyone, but I saw KB would like a shot so if anyone wants to volunteer their spot for him they can.

Spencer also became bludz again as Bludz only gave up his spot for a year. EB and Spencer showed interest in addition to KB for a spot. If you want to surrender your spot but only for a year and then have the option to come back we can do that too.

[bludhoundz]

yes i am in






bitches

[KBHoleN1]

Thanks Hulky, obviously you saw my FB reply to bdoggy. I'm just commenting here so I can follow. If there's an open spot, great, if not it's no sweat.

[The Butcher]

KB can have my spot this year.

[KBHoleN1]

Thanks for the offer Butch, but Wizzy gave his spot to me. I'm in the league this year.

[bdog1321]

holy shit i don't work on draft day thsi year

[007 GOD]

Time to go back-to-back

[manonfire101]

I will defeat you, sir.

[|AFO|]

Oh snap. It's the man, the myth, the legend - manonfire. Sup homie

[manonfire101]

Same old. I miss this game and most of the community. How are you doing, buddy?

[Hulky]

Same old. I miss this game and most of the community. How are you doing, buddy?

I'm sure you know, but BR has a live TAO remake in HTML 5. The lobby system is different like you gotta message someone the link to play you but the game is functional. Somewhere at the top of the forum is a link that say something like Play Link and Discord.

[Sanosuke]

in

[Hulky]

1 Blexican
2 Gypsy
3 Spencer
4 Mistretta
5 Thunder
6 007 God
7 AIDS
8 Butcher
9 Manon
10 Gryph
11 Bdog
12 Professor
13 Lex
14 Imalive
15 Darkness
16 Philly
17 Hulky
18 KBHoleN1
19 Sanosuke
20 Hugh Junit

Feel free to trade spots with someone (ideally at least a day before the draft), but I'll set as is right now. Obviously both people have to agree to trade, and the trade is all picks like its just your spot in the order not my 1st for your 2nd and 3rd or whatever.

[Hulky]

I'll trade with anyone who wants my place in first come first serve, but then also am willing to trade whatever place I end up with.

[manonfire101]

Thank you, Hulky.

Also willing to swap trade positions. PM me if you're interested.

Is bludz playing this year?

[Hulky]

Thank you, Hulky.

Also willing to swap trade positions. PM me if you're interested.

Is bludz playing this year?

bludz asked for Spencer to hold his spot a second year

[Hulky]

1 Blexican
2 Gypsy
3 Spencer
4 Mistretta
5 Thunder
6 007 God
7 AIDS
8 Butcher
9 Manon
10 Gryph
11 Bdog
12 Professor
13 Lex
14 Imalive
15 Darkness
16 Philly
17 Hulky
18 KBHoleN1
19 Sanosuke
20 Hugh Junit

Feel free to trade spots with someone (ideally at least a day before the draft), but I'll set as is right now. Obviously both people have to agree to trade, and the trade is all picks like its just your spot in the order not my 1st for your 2nd and 3rd or whatever.

Draft order on previous page (and quoted here)

[bdog1321]

I fuckin hate drafting in the middle

[Hulky]

You can trade

[Hulky]

Draft is tomorrow

[KBHoleN1]

Trying to get my notes together for the draft tonight. 1 QB, 2 WR, only 1 RB?, 1 TE, 1 flex, 1 kicker, 1 defense for the starters, right? I haven't played in a league with only one starting RB before, for anyone who reads this today, does that make RB more or less important over the course of a season? Like, is it easier to generate average points because you only have 1 slot to fill and you have several backups, or does it become more stressful trying to find the hot hand each week? EDIT: I know there's a flex spot that could house a second RB, but I'm used to finding 3 decent RBs each week unless a WR is going nuts on my bench.

Hulky gave me the gist of the QB situation: prioritize more completions and a higher % because of the league scoring. Any other tips for a TAO first-timer that you wouldn't mind sharing? My experience has been the last 5 years in exclusively 12 or less team leagues without PPR.

[Hulky]

Trying to get my notes together for the draft tonight. 1 QB, 2 WR, only 1 RB?, 1 TE, 1 flex, 1 kicker, 1 defense for the starters, right? I haven't played in a league with only one starting RB before, for anyone who reads this today, does that make RB more or less important over the course of a season? Like, is it easier to generate average points because you only have 1 slot to fill and you have several backups, or does it become more stressful trying to find the hot hand each week? EDIT: I know there's a flex spot that could house a second RB, but I'm used to finding 3 decent RBs each week unless a WR is going nuts on my bench.

Hulky gave me the gist of the QB situation: prioritize more completions and a higher % because of the league scoring. Any other tips for a TAO first-timer that you wouldn't mind sharing? My experience has been the last 5 years in exclusively 12 or less team leagues without PPR.

Three decent RBs in this league is a waste. What would make sense is like if you have Zeke, some RB2 and then your RB3 is Zeke's backup or something like that.

Mahomes for example is basically clear cut pick #1. If he's not then whoever picks second is super excited. Assuming he goes first though, then they pick uh 40th overall for their second pick. Maybe they get Chris Carson at 40, then they are 41 and take Chris Godwin. 1 RB 1 WR 1 RB and next pick is uh 61? Now you are in the Jamarr Chase, Odell off ACL, Raheem Mostert range. I might be way off but that's how it talent drops here. In a 12 man you get a lot more swings to build depth. Depth isn't real here and your sleepers in normal leagues are like mid-late picks here. It's wild but plan on like 2 Flex-worthy RBs and 2 or 3 flex worthy WRs in a normal league and try and land a top-ish tier RB and WR in the first 3 rounds. The other top pick is either RB, QB, WR, or an elite TE like Kelce or whatever.

Mahomes and the top guys are going to be far more impactful than you'd expect. Every QB that starts in real life aside from like maybe a Texan if Deshaun isn't clear situation or someone like Darnold. They all will be picked up or drafted though for the most part because 20 starters + 8-12ish teams will take a back up. The teams without basically punt their bye week. Some will likely take a Trey Lance, Justin Fields or whoever looks like will be a late starter but isn't technically a starter yet.

Check out some of our leagues past drafts and kinda get a feel
2020: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2020/f1/158146/draftresults?pspid=782200945&activity=draftresults

2019: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2019/f1/190090/draftresults?pspid=782200945&activity=draftresults

2018: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2018/f1/68141/draftresults

Round 1 will have at least 2 top QBs go typically. Usually 4ish by round 2. Then a run will happen either in rounds 3, 4 or 5.

RB, RB, WR, QB

RB, WR, QB, WR

WR, WR, RB, QB

QB, WR, WR, WR

WR, QB, RB, WR

those are basically the common openings with threeish teams will probably throw a TE in their for Kelce, Kittle and Waller.

[KBHoleN1]

Thanks Hulky! I tried looking for past drafts but couldn't find the page via this year's group.

[bludhoundz]

Also defense is a little more important to not draft in the final round in this league because there will be a lot fewer on waivers. It's still sort of a crapshoot to predict sometimes but having a good one is more important in this league than in a smaller league where you can do waiver pickups to play matchups

The first defense usually goes somewhere in rounds 6-8 if I remember correctly

Also you'll see this when you look at the draft boards but positional runs (e.g. like 5 qbs in 8ish picks or so) are definitely more significant and panic-based than in a smaller league with less distance between picks

Edit: I guess this post was made after the draft lol

[The Butcher]

I want to apologize for not showing up until round 8, i was saving serious issues with my phone that I didn't count on. and i got very frustrated.

my D- draft grade is well deserved

[Hulky]

Hulky
Trevor Lawrence Jax - QB
Stefon Diggs Buf - WR
Corey Davis NYJ - WR
Antonio Gibson Was - RB
T.J. Hockenson Det - TE
Javonte Williams Den - RB
Brandon McManus Den - K
Green Bay GB - DEF
Marvin Jones Jr. Jax - WR
Marquise Brown Bal - WR
Teddy Bridgewater Den - QB
Buffalo Buf - DEF

BleXi Can
Jalen Hurts Phi - QB
Allen Robinson II Chi - WR
Terry McLaurin Was - WR
Christian McCaffrey Car - RB
Tyler Higbee LAR - TE
Devin Singletary Buf - RB
Rodrigo Blankenship Ind - K
Los Angeles LAC - DEF
Michael Gallup Dal - WR
Tua Tagovailoa Mia - QB
Jameis Winston NO - QB
Darrel Williams KC - RB

Brett Favre
Justin Herbert LAC - QB
Calvin Ridley Atl - WR
Julio Jones Ten - WR
Travis Etienne Jax - RB
Anthony Firkser Ten - TE
James Robinson Jax - RB
Cleveland Cle - DEF
Mike Williams LAC - WR
Jared Goff Det - QB
Jonnu Smith NE - TE
Qadree Ollison Atl - RB
Tennessee Ten - DEF

Crazy Rich Eisen
Matt Ryan Atl - QB
DJ Moore Car - WR
Tyler Lockett Sea - WR
Jonathan Taylor Ind - RB
Mike Gesicki Mia - TE
Najee Harris Pit - RB
Justin Tucker Bal - K
Denver Den - DEF
Tony Pollard Dal - RB
Latavius Murray NO - RB
Blake Jarwin Dal - TE
Tre'Quan Smith NO - WR

darkness' crap team
Kirk Cousins Min - QB
Tyreek Hill KC - WR
DeAndre Hopkins Ari - WR
Myles Gaskin Mia - RB
Adam Trautman NO - TE
Amari Cooper Dal - WR
Harrison Butker KC - K
San Francisco SF - DEF
Jamaal Williams Det - RB
Alexander Mattison Min - RB
Elijah Moore NYJ - WR
Taysom Hill NO - QB

Dont touchdown there
Russell Wilson Sea - QB
Chase Claypool Pit - WR
A.J. Green Ari - WR
Ronald Jones II TB - RB
George Kittle SF - TE
Raheem Mostert SF - RB
Chris Boswell Pit - K
New York NYG - DEF
Jamison Crowder NYJ - WR
Emmanuel Sanders Buf - WR
Jared Cook LAC - TE
Zach Wilson NYJ - QB

For The Winston!
Ryan Tannehill Ten - QB
Diontae Johnson Pit - WR
Antonio Brown TB - WR
Austin Ekeler LAC - RB
Travis Kelce KC - TE
Leonard Fournette TB - RB
Daniel Carlson LV - K
New England NE - DEF
Jalen Reagor Phi - WR
Nyheim Hines Ind - RB
Carson Wentz Ind - QB
John Brown LV - WR

I’m Thielen A Chubb
Lamar Jackson Bal - QB
CeeDee Lamb Dal - WR
DJ Chark Jr. Jax - WR
Trey Sermon SF - RB
Kyle Pitts Atl - TE
Damien Harris NE - RB
Michael Badgley LAC - K
Seattle Sea - DEF
Jaylen Waddle Mia - WR
Gus Edwards Bal - RB
Deshaun Watson Hou - QB
Rhamondre Stevenson NE - RB

Lex
Baker Mayfield Cle - QB
DK Metcalf Sea - WR
Odell Beckham Jr. Cle - WR
Saquon Barkley NYG - RB
Hunter Henry NE - TE
Melvin Gordon III Den - RB
Younghoe Koo Atl - K
Minnesota Min - DEF
Rashaad Penny Sea - RB
Mac Jones NE - QB
Darius Slayton NYG - WR

manon's crap team
Josh Allen Buf - QB
Robert Woods LAR - WR
DeVonta Smith Phi - WR
Joe Mixon Cin - RB
Noah Fant Den - TE
Mike Davis Atl - RB
Matt Gay LAR - K
Tampa Bay TB - DEF
Cole Beasley Buf - WR
Drew Lock Den - QB
Marquez Callaway NO - WR
Tevin Coleman NYJ - RB

KB Toys
Kyler Murray Ari - QB
Adam Thielen Min - WR
Tee Higgins Cin - WR
Chris Carson Sea - RB
Irv Smith Jr. Min - TE
James Conner Ari - RB
Matt Prater Ari - K
Kansas City KC - DEF
Curtis Samuel Was - WR
Rondale Moore Ari - WR
Boston Scott Phi - RB
Nick Folk NE - K

Spencer's Boss Team
Tom Brady TB - QB
Keenan Allen LAC - WR
Robby Anderson Car - WR
Dalvin Cook Min - RB
Austin Hooper Cle - TE
Deebo Samuel SF - WR
Robbie Gould SF - K
Indianapolis Ind - DEF
Michael Carter NYJ - RB
Michael Pittman Jr. Ind - WR
Cam Newton NE - QB
Tim Patrick Den - WR

TaOtaku
Patrick Mahomes KC - QB
JuJu Smith-Schuster Pit - WR
Mecole Hardman KC - WR
J.K. Dobbins Bal - RB
Rob Gronkowski TB - TE
Josh Jacobs LV - RB
Ryan Succop TB - K
New Orleans NO - DEF
Derek Carr LV - QB
Sterling Shepard NYG - WR
Tyrell Williams Det - WR
Giovani Bernard TB - RB

The Butcher
Trey Lance SF - QB
A.J. Brown Ten - WR
Ja'Marr Chase Cin - WR
Nick Chubb Cle - RB
Logan Thomas Was - TE
Darrell Henderson Jr. LAR - RB
Jason Sanders Mia - K
Washington Was - DEF
Darnell Mooney Chi - WR
Phillip Lindsay Hou - RB
DeVante Parker Mia - WR
Dawson Knox Buf - TE

The Maine Red Claws
Aaron Rodgers GB - QB
Michael Thomas NO - WR
Jakobi Meyers NE - WR
Clyde Edwards-Helaire KC - RB
Mark Andrews Bal - TE
Cam Akers LAR - RB
Tyler Bass Buf - K
Baltimore Bal - DEF
Nelson Agholor NE - WR
Jimmy Garoppolo SF - QB
Rashod Bateman Bal - WR
Tarik Cohen Chi - RB

The RothlisRapers
Matthew Stafford LAR - QB
Jerry Jeudy Den - WR
Jarvis Landry Cle - WR
Alvin Kamara NO - RB
Robert Tonyan GB - TE
Miles Sanders Phi - RB
Mason Crosby GB - K
Dallas Dal - DEF
AJ Dillon GB - RB
T.Y. Hilton Ind - WR
Ben Roethlisberger Pit - QB
Breshad Perriman Det - WR

The Thunder
Joe Burrow Cin - QB
Mike Evans TB - WR
Tyler Boyd Cin - WR
Derrick Henry Ten - RB
Evan Engram NYG - TE
D'Andre Swift Det - RB
Dustin Hopkins Was - K
Miami Mia - DEF
Zack Moss Buf - RB
Henry Ruggs III LV - WR
Sam Darnold Car - QB
Bryan Edwards LV - WR

Turn Down for Watt
Dak Prescott Dal - QB
Davante Adams GB - WR
Kenny Golladay NYG - WR
David Montgomery Chi - RB
Gerald Everett Sea - TE
Chase Edmonds Ari - RB
Jason Myers Sea - K
Chicago Chi - DEF
David Johnson Hou - RB
Will Fuller V Mia - WR
Laviska Shenault Jr. Jax - WR
Eric Ebron Pit - TE

Unsolicited Dak Pics
Ryan Fitzpatrick Was - QB
Justin Jefferson Min - WR
Cooper Kupp LAR - WR
Aaron Jones GB - RB
Dallas Goedert Phi - TE
Brandon Aiyuk SF - WR
Greg Zuerlein Dal - K
Pittsburgh Pit - DEF
Kenyan Drake LV - RB
J.D. McKissic Was - RB
Cole Kmet Chi - TE
Christian Kirk Ari - WR

Yooooooo
Daniel Jones NYG - QB
Chris Godwin TB - WR
Courtland Sutton Den - WR
Ezekiel Elliott Dal - RB
Darren Waller LV - TE
Kareem Hunt Cle - RB
Wil Lutz NO - K
Los Angeles LAR - DEF
Justin Fields Chi - QB
Russell Gage Atl - WR
Zach Ertz Phi - TE
Hayden Hurst Atl - TE

[Hulky]

At least Sano took both James Robinson along with Etienne because that could have been nightmare mode

[KBHoleN1]

Still an incredibly shitty injury. Was really hoping Etienne and Lawrence would light it up this year. Now dude won't see the field until his 2nd year, that could permanently alter his career track. And incredibly shitty luck for Sano so soon after our draft.

[I'malive]

Really sad that I couldn't draft this year but I was somewhere without service and had no other choice. I tried to set enough of rankings to get away with it, but still ended up with injured players that I would not have taken (rd 3 being particularly fucking brutal). And 2 Pats wrs which makes me happy that I can root for my team, but scares me because we should and will be a run-first offense...Overall my team could still pan out well though, happy to have Rodgers, CEH, Andrews, and Bass at the very least. I will have to get lucky with waivers to fill things out though..

[bdog1321]

Wait what? I fucking put it a week out on my calendar. Jesus christ. I'm an idiot.

[bdog1321]

I'm really sorry. I'm pissed I missed it. I was all psyched to draft a good team this year

[The Butcher]

Well I'm feeling better about myself

[bdog1321]

I was legit upset at myself lol. I made the fucking thread! It's the one time a year we get together and bullshit

[KBHoleN1]

Anyone else want to do Pick'Em this year?

http://taoforums.com/showthread.php?861-NFL-Pick-Em&p=94353#post94353

First game is tonight. If anyone wants to make picks for weekend games and you get them in by Sunday, you'll probably get credit for tonight's game assuming TB wins like everyone expects. We've got 5 participants right now, I'd love to get some more.

[bdog1321]

Can we donate butch a qb

[KBHoleN1]

Haha, Trey Lance came in and put up some point for him, though, and he beat me this week. As shitty as I did this week, that Nick Folk kick would have put me in front. That was heartbreaking for it to bounce off the post.

[Hulky]

tbh that's kinda epic Butcher won by starting a backup QB who actually ended up entering the game because of injury

[KBHoleN1]

Adam Thielen with 0 catches and only 1 target against the Lions secondary is pretty confusing to me.

[manonfire101]

Anybody want Goff for a bye week?

[KBHoleN1]

Well, I fucked up today. I knew that Kyler Murray was questionable to start, so I picked up Justin Fields earlier in the week. CHI plays at 1:00, ARI at 4:30, so I knew I’d have to make a decision before the Bears game. I got busy today around the house, and remembered to check it at … 1:02. Looks like I’m starting Colt McCoy instead, uggh.

[manonfire101]

Looks like you did not fuck up.

[KBHoleN1]

Looks like you did not fuck up.

Indeed. My goodness that was lucky.

[manonfire101]

LA Rams offense is butt lately. Should have started McPherson.

Edit: Stafford throws a 79-yard TD as I say that.

[Hulky]

gross Yahoo didn't save my lineup changes this morning when I benched a doubtful Corey Davis for Marvin Jones then Javonte to the flex.

[KBHoleN1]

I feel bad for darkness. I was poking around rosters for the playoff qualifiers, and noticed his injury/COVID situation. Last Friday he had Myles Gaskin and Jamaal Williams hit the COVID list, Monday he had Alexander Mattison and Kadarius Toney hit the COVID list as well. He already had Dan Arnold sitting on IR, then today Deandre Hopkins was ruled out for the rest of the regular season and Rex Burkhead is expected to be out for his Week 15 game. And he gets to face the #1 playoff seed this week. Ouch.

[manonfire101]

Season high 25.23 points for Kelce. His previous high was 16.57 and he was projected for 9.99. Thanks, asshole

[manonfire101]

Probably need a big game from TB defense against Hill if Philly ends up going with Hill. If he goes with Tannehill, I need him to throw at Julio. I shouldn't have this fucking first round match-up after leading the league in points for

[Hulky]

I still can't believe how absolutely garbage Trevor Lawrence was this year.