For NFL fans

[Darkness]

http://games.espn.com/nfl-pigskin-pickem/2017/en/group?groupID=39741

I think?

I clicked rejoin a bunch of times and it wouldn't add me though so I'm out.


I tried to join the Pick Em league on Chrome and the buttons didn't work. Switched to Firefox and everything worked.
Thanks. I got the buttons to work, but I don't have the password. Do either of you happen to know it? I think it was something about Mantis last time.

[Sanosuke]

FREEMANTIS lol

[Hulky]

Thanks. I got the buttons to work, but I don't have the password. Do either of you happen to know it? I think it was something about Mantis last time.


FREEMANTIS


all caps

[Darkness]

Thanks guys. Got my picks in right at 10 am haha.

[Hugh]

Raiders offense looks so good with Lynch.
That onside kick from Tennessee was stupid.

[Hulky]

Fucking Amari's TD was insane though

[I'malive]

Oh man I'm so happy to have a full day of football again..starting my day with redskins/eagles and I'm already loving it.

[bdog1321]

wentz' was too, though they missed the illegal block on one of the eagles' linemen who just pushed a redskins rusher down in the small of his back

[bdog1321]

cousins is hilaribad

[Hulky]

Cooper dropped three TDs in a row.
:|

[Hugh]

That was weird. Cooper could have had all 3 of those.

[Hugh]

They should have given it to Lynch.
Trust me. I know.

[Hugh]

Romo's doing pretty good for his first game. He's already better than Aikman, Fouts or Phil Simms.

[bdog1321]

what game is he calling?

[Da Gyps]

Steelers out here fooling around with the Browns.

[Da Gyps]

Romo's doing pretty good for his first game. He's already better than Aikman, Fouts or Phil Simms.

Well, that's not hard, lol.

[bludhoundz]

Philly washington i believe

[Hulky]

Romo is doing Oak/Ten with Jim Nance

[bdog1321]

ah damn, can't get that one

[bdog1321]

as i was writing a post about how philly's wrs are balling out and saving wentz from looking absolutely awful, he throws a pick 6.

lol

[Da Gyps]

Romo accurately predicting play calls.

[Hulky]

Anyone watching Steelers wanna fill me in why LeVeon Bell isn't getting me any fantasy points in my money league?

[Da Gyps]

Nantz: How?
Romo: Lol played football

[Hulky]

Seems like a low scoring first half across the NFL so far

[Da Gyps]

If there was a hell, Terry Bradshaw would narrate NFL highlights there.

[Hugh]

He's still better than Phil Simms.

[Hulky]

check out Andy Dalton's stats lol

[bdog1321]

i know, if only the ravens got into the end zone with the 3rd int, i'd feel a little more comfortable about our fantasy game...

chris thompson just put his big boy pants on with that td

[Da Gyps]

check out Andy Dalton's stats lol

Tough football weekend for Mantis.

[Hulky]

oh damn Calais Campbell already has 3.5 sacks

[bdog1321]

yeah, i think there's a good chance savage gets benched in the very first game

[Da Gyps]

yeah, i think there's a good chance savage gets benched in the very first game

Glennon should be too, lol.

[bdog1321]

Watson is in

Prophetic

[bdog1321]

i wasn't expecting the raiders defense to perform so well

[bdog1321]

odell beckham's middle name is cornelious

[Hulky]

Would not have bet Jacksonville would give up 0 sacks against Clowney/Watt/Mercilus, 0 INT with Bortles, and 0 fumbles.

[bdog1321]

The Fournette Effect

[I'malive]

Getting the call wrong on replay is killing me today..

[Darkness]

"What better way to show the Redskins fans that you're a franchise quarterback than to lead a 2 minute game-winning drive in your first game of the season?" (not an exact quote, but pretty much) ...seconds later: Cousins fumble returned for touchdown. lol

Bad call, but still pretty funny.

[bdog1321]

holy golladay! stafford carved up the cardinals!

dude lions lmao

[Da Gyps]

Seahawks have offense issues.

[bdog1321]

If one drive is enough to declare they have offensive issues, then that would-be pick 6 means they have an elite defense

[Hugh]

They do have an elite defense.

[Da Gyps]

We already know the Seahawks d is great. Evidence: last 5 or w/e years.

[Da Gyps]

Also didn't we all have suspicions that the Seahawks oline was going to be bad? First two drives are certainly reinforcing it...

[Hulky]

Rams Oline has like 10 fouls in the first quarter lol

[bdog1321]

Also didn't we all have suspicions that the Seahawks oline was going to be bad? First two drives are certainly reinforcing it...

i'm just being a shit

i picked the rams in my last man standing money league this week, looks like i'm just gonna pick whoever's playing the colts until luck gets back. they're the new browns.

[Da Gyps]

They are truly awful...Scott Tolzien? lol

[bdog1321]

cam newton doing his best scott tolzien impression

[Hulky]

I really really need Shane Vereen to do great things tonight.

[Da Gyps]

lololololol

[bdog1321]

The Seahawks have offense issues.

[Mantis]

check out Andy Dalton's stats lol

Just when I thought the worst QB play I'd see this weekend was going to be JT Barrett, Dalton comes in today and said "Hold my beer."

I went to the game with my family. Needless to say there was quite a bit of booing. Dalton accounted for all 5 turnovers by himself. Remarkable.

[bdog1321]

Do they have a viable backup?

[Maverik]

Kaepernick

[Hulky]

AJ McCarron
Dalton has to be entrenched as #1 though

[Mantis]

Do they have a viable backup?

AJ McCarron. He looks solid most of the time I've seen him play. There's been a lot of talk of trading him because some teams that are in need of a QB would actually use him as a starter. Most of the fans today were screaming for him to come in to replace Dalton, and rightfully so. A couple of Dalton's picks were off tipped balls, but even so you should never have that many turnovers. He also missed a wide open receiver for a TD (flashbacks of Barrett) and several other throws that should have been made.

[Hulky]

I have the 11th most player time remaining in my Draftkings and I'm currently in the money.

plz plz plz
let me go offfffff

[bdog1321]

plz plz plz
let me go offfffff

you have a fiance for that why are you paying for it

[Hulky]

Tolzien benched for Jacoby Brissett
edit: who drives them down for a TD and I'm out of the money >:C

[Da Gyps]

Kaepernick

*dead*

[bdog1321]

immediately throws a 50 yard bomb

[KBHoleN1]

Watching the Panthers/49ers game. Not sure who the commentating crew is (NFL on FOX), but it might be Daryl Johnston and Chris Myers. Anyway, the 49ers mess up a 2nd down play near the goal line and Hoyer has no one to hand off to, so he scrambles left, considers throwing it away, but takes a sack (-5 yards). One of the commentators goes on for about 20 seconds about how smart that was not to throw the ball because he had a lineman in the endzone (designed run). I mean repeated 2 or 3 times how smart that was. The penalty for ineligible man downfield? 5 yards AND YOU REPLAY THE DOWN.

[Sanosuke]

Yes they will have a running game. Again, much of what they do on the ground is based off Wilson's ability and threat to run and he was completely unable to do that last year. He could barely scramble for half the season. If Wilson is healthy and mobile, the Seahawks will be able to run the ball. With anyone.
Baldwin is good. Graham is healthy. Kearse sucks but he's reliable and does the dirty work. They've got some young guys coming up, but it really doesn't matter. Russell will get the ball to whoever is on the field.
You're just wrong, Sano. Seattle will make the playoffs for the 6th season in a row. You'll see.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/250/498/dd3.png

[Hugh]

Well that sucked.
Oh well. 15-1 I guess. :)

[Hulky]

more like 7-9, but still playoffs because shit tier division

[Hugh]

They'll win 11 at least. You'll see.

[Hulky]

They'll win 11 at least. You'll see.

lol thats right between 15-1 and 7-9.

[bdog1321]

Eli is AWFUL

JAYLON IS GOD

THESE TOTALLY AREN'T HOT TAKES

[Maverik]

I hate the Chargers, but I would buy their kickers' jersey if he put his first name on it

'Younghoe'

[manonfire101]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 1-0. We da best

[Mantis]

Can't even get a first down after starting with a 1st and 5. Fucking pathetic. I thought we'd win at least 9 games this year, but with the way our offense is non-existent, that's not fucking happening. Maybe if we tank one more season they will FINALLY get rid of Marvin. That will be the best day of my life.

[Mantis]

What the fuck??? He's not even fast!!

[KBHoleN1]

He was fast enough to tear up Ohio State.

[Maverik]

and steal yo gurl

[Mantis]

Why the fuck is KB a mod? I can't even add him to my ignore list.

[bdog1321]

this isn't gonna be a good football year for manto

[Mantis]

I think it's a little early to assume that, though right now it's not looking good.

[KBHoleN1]

Did you really get upset by that? Jesus, I thought it was pretty clearly a joke.

[Hugh]

Does this really sound upset to you?


I think it's a little early to assume that, though right now it's not looking good.

I see what you mean, KB.
Yeah, mantis. Calm down. No reason to get so pissed.

[KBHoleN1]

Does this really sound upset to you?



I see what you mean, KB.
Yeah, mantis. Calm down. No reason to get so pissed.

Stop trying to be a smartass. I'm clearly not talking about the bdog post. Scroll up farther and you'll see the exchange mantis had with me. He also left me a message in a rep that indicates he's upset at me.

[Mantis]

Yeah. I'm tired of you unnecessarily following me into every thread to make some dumbass comment about Ohio State. It's annoying. You're like a little kid that never knows when to stop. I don't care if you're joking or not. I find you so irritating that even if you are joking, it doesn't matter to me. Usually you can only joke around with people that you actually like. I don't like you. You don't like me. There's no reason for either of us to joke around with each other. Just stop posting to me, about me, about Ohio State/Bengals. Keep your shit to yourself.

[KBHoleN1]

But I didn't unnecessarily follow you. I'm not coming to a thread because you posted here. I came to the NFL thread because there's an NFL game going on. Your comment was the fresh one, it was about Watson not being fast. It's perfectly on topic given the player involved and the person posting. It's a joke that you clearly can't handle. You're all the time popping into sports threads to laugh at another team's misfortune, but you can't handle the slightest bit of criticism directed back at you. I think it's ridiculous, but I'm going to stop interacting with you if that's what you want. Fair enough?

[Mantis]

That's exactly what I want. Read my edit. It's what I've wanted for years. I've told you this before. Everything you do just irks me, most of it by your own intention.

[bludhoundz]

knew i made a mistake picking the bengals. they always lose to the texans, particularly when it's the only game on

[Mantis]

Glad we have all these offensive weapons and we still can't score a fucking touchdown in 2 games. Fire Marvin. Fire everyone. Fire sale.

*insert Tobias gif*

[Hugh]

Stop trying to be a smartass. I'm clearly not talking about the bdog post. Scroll up farther and you'll see the exchange mantis had with me. He also left me a message in a rep that indicates he's upset at me.

Oh lighten up. It's funny.

[Burnout278]

I am assuming the Bengals are still afraid of the spot light?

[Mantis]

Welp, the good news is we fired our offensive coordinator already (which is shocking considering it's the Bengals and we never make changes until way after the fact usually). The bad news is we have the QB coach assuming the new role for the OC. The same QB coach who is currently coaching statistically the worst QB in the NFL as of right now...

http://newscult.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/05onfire1_xp-master768-v2.jpg

[Hugh]

Just watched Sam Bradford trying to warm up and he wasn't moving much. Looked like he's hiding a limp.
Analysts say he probably isn't playing by the looks of it.

[Da Gyps]

I wish the let down game after a big win was something new for KC. Can still win this but the offense has been blargh.

[Hulky]

Im watching KC/PHI too, but outside of TB or NE all the scores look blargh

[3000 stat]

Brady back to being the GOAT, Pats back on form. Nice. Not that I was ever worried about it.

[Da Gyps]

Kareem Hunt is really good. So many times today he was hit behind the los and gained yards.

[Hulky]

KC looks really good so far this year.

[Hulky]

Younghoe missed FG, Younghoe 'bout to be cut

[Da Gyps]

KC looks really good so far this year.

Oline sucked a bit today, but Eagles front 7 is pretty strong. Really good play calling for the most part by Andy.

[Hulky]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l1J9vC2oCigiTzsD6/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwvT4qqaoEkfaFy/giphy.gif

[bdog1321]

broncos are cowboysing the cowboys

[Hugh]

The "Ice cold Buuuud lite here!" commercial is so great. Best I've seen in a long time.

[bdog1321]

i like the dilly dilly one better

[Da Gyps]

AFC West is insane Hulky.

[Hulky]

With the ass kicking by the Broncos (Sieman 4 TD?!) the Cowboys should look at Elliott and his 0 rushing yards and tell him if he's going to get suspended he might as well do it now.

[manonfire101]

Well, they may not win the division, gypsy, but I don't think they'll be last either. Go Broncos.

[bludhoundz]

yep. I was wrong, they looked good

[Burnout278]

Just watched Sam Bradford trying to warm up and he wasn't moving much. Looked like he's hiding a limp.
Analysts say he probably isn't playing by the looks of it.

This made me sad. So very sad. Then I seen the score. Then I grew even sadder. Than that Packers lost. I am a bit better now.

[Sanosuke]

Five teams did not score a touchdown this week.

[bdog1321]

i wonder if this game will shut the morons over at the cowboys sbnation blog up about our great defense. i had a 10-post long argument with a particularly thick one who thought dallas' defense was better than the chargers

[bdog1321]

that said, i think this game 1. made the broncos look better than they are, and 2. made the cowboys look worse than they are.

denver doesn't lose at home early in the season. just a fact.
cowboys lost half of their already thin and inexperienced secondary.
cowboys were completely unprepared for the altitude which obviously had a large effect on them

make no mistake, i can't remember a bigger destruction of the cowboys since 44-6. but i still think they're easily the best team in the nfc east and will make the playoffs by a comfortable margin. i'd be more worried about the broncos in that division than the cowboys in theirs, even after this game.

[Mantis]

Five teams did not score a touchdown this week.

who dey

[bludhoundz]

bengals 49ers seahawks panthers bills

also, i know my giants just got smacked by the 'boys last week and our offense looked awful but i still think this is funny

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[Burnout278]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/21559081_1629981093715239_6069943131270817137_n.jp g?oh=20c9398836f2e546f07fded7132c1e1a&oe=5A49020C

[Hugh]

bengals 49ers seahawks panthers bills


Seahawks scored a TD.

[bludhoundz]

oh my bad, did they miss an extra point? 12 usually looks like 4 FGs

I think it was the vikings then

[KBHoleN1]

What a fucking return. Rarely do you see a player spin and juke like that and still maintain enough momentum to outrun players. That drop by Marshall is probably the play of the game.

[Hulky]

Yeah the 49ers Seahawks was like 6 to 9 49ers leading then a TD and the Hawks won

[Lex]

Time to get excited for next year's draft. Orlando Brown in the top 5. Baker in the 2nd round. Relocate the team to OKC.

[manonfire101]

yep. I was wrong, they looked good

That wasn't a shot at you, by the way. I was surprised how well they ran the ball and how well they stopped the run against Dallas. I would still say that Oakland and KC are probably better.

[Sanosuke]

NFL offenses have been embarrassingly bad lately.

[Da Gyps]

Well, they may not win the division, gypsy, but I don't think they'll be last either. Go Broncos.

Except for the Chargers every team in the division is a legit playoff team. I hope the math works out so it's an AFC west party in the playoffs. South is a garbo dumpster fire, East is Patriots and the chumps per usual. Only division I could see getting a second team and deserving it is the North.

[Da Gyps]

NFL offenses have been embarrassingly bad lately.

Chiefs averaging 34.5 points a week. Excite.

[Da Gyps]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKHwBQEVoAADi8x.jpg

[Hulky]

tbh I think even the Chargers are fringe playoff caliber. Like if The Chargers joined the AFC South, I think they'd be easily in the race to take that division - they are just always so damn injured.

[Hugh]

Things I'd trade Jimmy Graham for ( if I owned the Seahawks )
1. Bag of footballs
2. Blocking sled
3. Box of used mouthgaurds
4. 6 pack of Molson Ice cans that have been baking in the sun for 12 hours
5. Season 1 of Suits on DVD. Not even Blue Ray.

[Sanosuke]

Yes they will have a running game. Again, much of what they do on the ground is based off Wilson's ability and threat to run and he was completely unable to do that last year. He could barely scramble for half the season. If Wilson is healthy and mobile, the Seahawks will be able to run the ball. With anyone.
Baldwin is good. Graham is healthy. Kearse sucks but he's reliable and does the dirty work. They've got some young guys coming up, but it really doesn't matter. Russell will get the ball to whoever is on the field.
You're just wrong, Sano. Seattle will make the playoffs for the 6th season in a row. You'll see.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/250/498/dd3.png

Hmm

[Hugh]

You don't need to understand my process, Sano. Just trust it.

[bdog1321]

i think carson will be big for the seahawks, they'll be able to run it after they get their shit together and get in form

[Hulky]

it's that Seattle doesn't believe in Olines

[Sanosuke]

Just logged into my draftkings account for the first time in a couple years and I have 54 bucks on it. Yassss

[bludhoundz]

i know this was a laugher of a game to most but it was actually a really good game. like, really really good.

[Hugh]

Yea it was.

[Sanosuke]

I had a great time watching last night's game. Probably the best TNF game I've seen in a while

[The Butcher]

Thoughts?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/health/aaron-hernandez-cte/index.html

[Sanosuke]

Hernandez played football, fact. Hernandez playing in the NFL is the reason why his brain is fucked. Yes and no. For the family, and all these players to chase after the NFL for money because of brain damage is like suing A cup manufacturer because you burned yourself with what was inside.

I'm fairly certain all this brain trauma starts with Pop Warner and going forward in your age group leagues. Play football your entire life, you're gonna have brain damage. Not a hard concept to understand. It's also not ALL the NFL's fault either

[The Butcher]

I think maybe the head injuries just cultivated his already existing inner demons.

I did think it was interesting they were, it seems like, trying to exonerate a convicted killer and blame it on football.

[Sanosuke]

I would agree. I don't like how the article was spun either if I'm honest. If you're going to excuse his murders with football, better do that for everything drug and domestic violence related issues players have too.

[Maverik]

the brain is something we will never really understand or be able to map, but I definitely agree with Butch

I think that the trauma will absolutely exacerbate a pre-existing condition, not necessarily create one.

football attracts a certain type of person and I think that category of person is largely predispositioned towards aggressive/irrational behavior

obviously this is a big generalization from me combining the little bits and pieces I've learned from articles like the one Butch posted

[Hulky]

It's not just the NFL's fault though, Aaron Hernandez was on the murder path before he joined the NFL. He fell in the draft for gang like behaviors and associations.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/21/drafting-hernandez-was-always-risk-reward-proposition-for-patriots/3HWjGvTSTOOOs5BtpvFDcJ/story.html

[Maverik]

right

its football as a whole, from Pop Warner to the NFL

the NFL is just the beast with the most money, aka biggest target

[bdog1321]

What is happen

[Hugh]

Such a stupid throw by Watson there. You're beating the fucking Pats in their building and you do that. Brutal.

[Da Gyps]

https://i.imgur.com/pwPDkWy.png

[Da Gyps]

And I know the Chiefs have Hunt and he has been awesome so far but it still just feels so damn weird.

[Hugh]

Bitch please. I have to watch Marshawn Lynch play for the Raiders.

[Hugh]

How can anyone get as wide open as Chris Hogan just did? My god.

[Hulky]

Charles on the AFC West rival Broncos after spending his entire career in KC is a much weirder thing for a fan than Marshawn playing for the city he grew up in and played college in, before being drafted by Buffalo and then being traded after years to Seattle.

[Hugh]

Okay, Hulky. Before you were even born I was rooting against the Raiders and wearing a Raider Hater tee shirt to school when the Seahawks were in the AFC west, but thanks for the history lesson.

[Hugh]

Watson' been pretty awesome aside from that one throw, though.

[Hulky]

lol

[Da Gyps]

Broncos lose in Buffalo.

https://m.popkey.co/3895e1/9wNbO.gif

[Mantis]

The Bears are getting hosed so hard this game. It is still partially their own fault they didn't win in regulation though if that dumbass didn't stop before he got into the endzone and allow the ball to get knocked out of his hand at the 1 yard line.

EDIT: Good. They still won. The Steelers run defense looked non-existent in OT.

[The Butcher]

suck it lex and gryph

[bdog1321]

nice fg

[Lex]

suck it lex and gryph

Playing for draft picks bro, executed that last quarter perfectly.

[Da Gyps]

Alex Smith out here completing 30+ yards in the air passes.

[Da Gyps]

Also I mean, ANDY MOTHER FUGGGGGGGGGGIN REID. Chargers might not want to put a LB on Tyreek. lol

[Burnout278]

Fuck the refs. Fuck them to forever and beyond. Some fucking bull shit.

[Mantis]

Did anyone just see that "pass interference" call against the Bengals? Welcome to my life.

All in my head, right?

[Burnout278]

Did anyone just see that "pass interference" call against the Bengals? Welcome to my life.

All in my head, right?

*Points to bull shit 10 seconds run off with 8 seconds left in the game*

Seriously go QQ elsewhere

[Mantis]

So I have to QQ elsewhere, but everyone else gets to QQ wherever the hell they want. Again, welcome to my life.

[Burnout278]

So I have to QQ elsewhere, but everyone else gets to QQ wherever the hell they want. Again, welcome to my life.

ALL YOU DO IS QQ.

Also fuck Ohio and all things Ohio. Except EB. He is cool

[Maverik]

So I have to QQ elsewhere, but everyone else gets to QQ wherever the hell they want. Again, welcome to my life.

you're so far removed from reality, it hurts

this is your life because you make it your life

literally everybody makes the same comments towards you and all you do is continue to deny deny deny and blame blame blame

you're basically Trump

[Maverik]

you know you're really far gone when even burnout starts getting annoyed with you, hahaha

[Da Gyps]

Phillys Rivers in great form so far today.

[Mantis]

Maverik, lose my number. I can't believe I ever removed you from my ignore list.

[bdog1321]

i love tony romo lol

dude sacks dalton and celebrates by flexing, romo mocks him and goes "OOOOOH I'M STRONG"

[Da Gyps]

Romo has quickly become one of my favourite announcers.

[Hulky]

I think Romo is the best one so far

[Hugh]

Yep. He's really good.

[Gryph]

suck it lex and gryph

Im a Jet fan you nicompoop

[Hulky]

Im a Jet fan you nicompoop

Jete*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHBOJWFHLfg

[Gryph]

Im used to it lol

[Da Gyps]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhphruUQAAWcPs.jpg

[Da Gyps]

THIRD ROUND DRAFT PICK LOLLLLLLLLLLllll

[Hulky]

Kareem Hunt is on pace for what kind of numbers?

[Greendaybum5]

Was at the Eagles game today. I'm very interested to see what this team could be when healthy and once we get a real coach. Pederson just isn't going to cut it. One of the most exciting 4th quarters in a long time.

Even as an Eagles fan i find Romo's commentary abilities to be great. He was a great hire. I love seeing him predict the play and then them run it lol

[bdog1321]

Kareem hunt is the best rb in the league

[Mantis]

Bye Marvin. If only Dalton could hit wide open receivers. Two TDs left on the board.

[Da Gyps]

Kareem hunt is the best rb in the league

Pretty much. So many plays he is contacted before the los.

And when he does get a solid hole he flies through it.

[bdog1321]

Motherfucker AVERAGED like 17 ypc

[bdog1321]

I know a lot of people like lynch and he's had a great career. But I think he's holding the raiders back. He's not good anymore. They should be starting richard.

[Hugh]

Why are receivers tackling defensive backs and thinking it won't get called? I've seen it twice in 5 minutes. Blows my mind.
Full on wrapping up defenders with both arms. Seriously? Then they bitch about getting called for holding? Fucking retards.

[Hugh]

I know a lot of people like lynch and he's had a great career. But I think he's holding the raiders back. He's not good anymore. They should be starting richard.

Lynch has something left. Raiders aren't a run first offense. He's always been good at catching passes out of the backfield and he can still do it. He's their best option if he's healthy.

[bdog1321]

If he's their best option, the raiders' run game will finish among the worst in the league

[Greendaybum5]

this game is brutal.....raiders making washington look like a super bowl caliber team lol

[Hugh]

If he's their best option, the raiders' run game will finish among the worst in the league

It might, but it won't be because Lynch sucks. They're all about throwing the ball in Oakland. They have Carr. They aren't gonna change their entire offense because they got Marshawn Lynch. He's got 5 carries this half.

[bdog1321]

For 13 yards behind maybe the league's best run blocking unit. He sucks.

[Da Gyps]

This game is making me hard.

[Hugh]

For 13 yards behind maybe the league's best run blocking unit. He sucks.

Looks fine to me. Not like he's getting a ton of carries. He's better than Richard.
There's a reason you're the only one saying Lynch sucks.

[bdog1321]

Yeah there is, I'm pretty good at nfl

[Hugh]

What does that mean?

[Hulky]

Lynch is about the same as Jalen Richard and DeAndre Washington. Jalen Richard is my favorite of the three though.

[Hugh]

Redskins are just kicking their ass.

[Serge]

What the hell happened to the Raiders offense today?

Our offense needs to stop the fumbling. Could have been a shutout.

[bludhoundz]

Lynch is fine. The Raiders got knocked out of their crappy gameplan and never adjusted

[Hugh]

Our offense needs to stop the fumbling. Could have been a shutout.

That's what you took away from that performance? Jesus, Serge.

[The Butcher]

Lynch is fine. The Raiders got knocked out of their crappy gameplan and never adjusted

yeah tell that to my $$$ fantasy team with him and Cooper

[The Butcher]

Was at the Eagles game today. I'm very interested to see what this team could be when healthy and once we get a real coach. Pederson just isn't going to cut it. One of the most exciting 4th quarters in a long time.

Even as an Eagles fan i find Romo's commentary abilities to be great. He was a great hire. I love seeing him predict the play and then them run it lol

Romo is great TBH

[Serge]

That's what you took away from that performance? Jesus, Serge.

I mean, the offense tore up the field. Thompson is the truth and Vernon Davis must have found the fountain of youth. Kirk was a machine. But damn if 30-0 wouldn't have made a statement to the rest of the league. It sucks that you can be dominant for every single play except for the two turnovers and those two mistakes equate to 10 points.

[Hugh]

Sure, but the statement was made. Even with those costly mistakes the Redskins completely domintated a team that most people are calling one of the best in the league. It was amazing to watch. The defensive line was doing whatever they wanted.
I dont remember being that surprised watching a game because it was all facets and it was the whole game. The Redskins made it look easy. The Raiders couldn't get a thing going, and they're a damn good team. I'd be nothing but excited if I was you.

[The Butcher]

Sproles tore ACL AND broke his arm on the same fucking play.

[Hugh]

Like a fucking car accident. That sucks.

[bdog1321]

sad that this is how one of the all-time great careers ends.

[Hulky]

are you calling Sproles an all time great or did something else happen?

[Hugh]

Wouldn't Sproles be considered one of the all time great return men? I'm not sure. He's had a really long career and definitely put up some numbers. He's got to be top 10 but maybe even better than that? Top 5?

[bdog1321]

he's definitely an all-time great football player

[Hugh]

I wonder if Sproles will get into the Hall of Fame? He probably should because of how versatile and unique a player he is, and how long he's been doing it, but who knows. He still did most of his damage as a return man, and those guys never get in.

[Hulky]

I wouldn't put him anywhere near the Hall of Fame
not in the top 250 for rushing or receiving yards
his 52 combined rushing/receiving TDs is very good for a career, but like Blount has 50 rushing TDs alone and no one should consider him a HOF either.
He is 7th in return yardage. 7th isn't an all time great. Hester is 8th, but Hester is the HOF'r given he returned TDs all the way into the SB and his return almost let Grossman beat Manning in the SB. Cribbs has better return numbers than either, but Hester is the pick for comparative SB success.
55th with a lot of people for KR TDs.
7th for PR TDs (Hester has 14).

Basically nothing about Sproles says HOF. He could be ring of honor or whatever for the Chargers or whatever one day, but he wasn't that good to be HOF.

[The Butcher]

but he wasn't that good to be HOF.

Shut your mouth.

[Maverik]

he's not

I'm surprised anybody even thinks so

[Hugh]

The one thing would be all purpose yards. He's #8 all time with almost 20,000, and pretty much everyone else in the top 10 is a HOFer. Of course Brian Mitchell is the exception, and he's the all time return leader, so it's hard to imagine Sproles getting in and not Mitchell.
I think most people would agree that Sproles was much more of a real offensive player and overall threat/talent than Mitchell, who was truly a specialist, but Sproles numbers aren't miles better. I think Hulky is right. Not a Hall of Famer.
So bdog is wrong. Not one of the all time greats.

[bdog1321]

he is clearly one of the all-time greats at what he does. all-time great rb? obviously no. all-time great wr? obviously no.

comparing him to hester is an absolute joke and an insult. i get that he was a charger but come on hulky. he was a game-breaking talent that every single defensive coordinator had to plan for. until age 34. when did anyone ever scheme to take away devin hester or joshua cribbs from an offensive game plan?

never, because they weren't even good enough to be backup wrs on most teams.

get real, sproles is great even if he'll never get into the hall

[The Butcher]

he's not

I'm surprised anybody even thinks so

Because we've actually watched him play significant snaps and improve every football team he's ever been on with his incredible abilities and talents.

I don't give a fuck about the hall of fame. Is this the same hall of fame that hasn't inducted TO yet? Yeah, they're brilliant.

Shove your stats, guys. I'll take a healthy Sproles on my team any day. Dude is amazing, and a class act.

[Maverik]

I've almost certainly watched more snaps with Sproles on the field than you have, so that was a silly thing to bring up.

He's spent more years in SD than in Philly and it wasn't until NO broke him out that he really showed how dynamic he was. SD used him more-so for Special Teams than Offense.

[Hulky]

Do you guys that think Sproles is awesome also think Reggie Bush is awesome?

[Hugh]

Just looked up Reggie Bush to compare stats. Did you know his hand measurement was 11 inches? I think JJ Watt's are the biggest in the league at 11 1/4. Freak.
Other than that, he's Sproles without the return yards. Very comparable. I wouldn't call Bush awesome. He was a good player when he was healthy, which wasn't often.

[Maverik]

he's way more than Sproles on the offensive end

[bdog1321]

you guys are crazy

[Maverik]

how is that crazy?

37 less games for Bush, ~2k more rushing yards, ~1k less receiving yards, 3 less PR TDs


I wouldn't call Bush (re:Sproles) awesome. He was a good player when he was healthy, which wasn't often.

[Hulky]

Just looked up Reggie Bush to compare stats. Did you know his hand measurement was 11 inches? I think JJ Watt's are the biggest in the league at 11 1/4. Freak.
Other than that, he's Sproles without the return yards. Very comparable. I wouldn't call Bush awesome. He was a good player when he was healthy, which wasn't often.

DeForest Buckner and Paxton Lynch are up there for hand size I remember from that draft class.

[bdog1321]

here we go again...

[Hugh]

The most impressive thing about Sproles is how long he played at pretty much the same level. That just doesn't happen. I think it was a few years ago I was watching an Eagles game and Sproles made a great play and I thought "Was that Darren Sproles? How long has that guy been around?"
It was the first year he made the Pro Bowl and All Pro then he did it again. The league was finally starting to acknowledge him, and for good reason. But end of the day Sproles was an excellent return man who was good for a handful of TDs a year as a change of pace back.

[Maverik]

But end of the day Sproles was an excellent return man who was good for a handful of TDs a year as a change of pace back.

agreed

[bdog1321]

dak!!!!

[bdog1321]

holy lawrence. gets a sack wiped out by a RARE sean lee penalty, so he just sacks him again on the next play.

defense is eating now.

[bdog1321]

yeah dez sucks now. totally not elite.

[Hugh]

Okay now who ever said Dez Bryant sucks? Come on, bdog.

[Burnout278]

Okay now who ever said Dez Bryant sucks? Come on, bdog.

I think his mom?

http://i.imgur.com/VnqSf.png

[bdog1321]

Okay now who ever said Dez Bryant sucks? Come on, bdog.

this week has been full of people shitting on dez bryant. do a google search on dez bryant and you'll see.

come on, man.

[Hugh]

this week has been full of people shitting on dez bryant. do a google search on dez bryant and you'll see.

come on, man.

Okay, I did. I stand corrected. People are stupid. He's still one of the best receivers in the league.

[bdog1321]

and so too is patrick peterson one of the best cbs. outside of dez' touchdown (which was FUCKING AWESOME), he didn't do much and was locked down.

[Sanosuke]

Seahawks are Superbowl bound /s

[bludhoundz]

If you read the NFL.com article on why Dez Bryant isn't elite it is pretty compelling though. His route tree does seem somewhat limited and his footwork / nuances on routes are a bit rough. He's a great physical specimen but he's not a technician by any means. I think stories of his decline may be overstating it but I also do not consider him to be one of the top 5 wide receivers in the game. He has a pretty rough schedule against #1 cornerbacks this year so you can really see what you think. He did pretty much nothing this game until they ran a zone play where Peterson wasn't directly responsible for covering him - though the effort and physicality by Dez was obviously awesome

[bdog1321]

At least he doesn't have an ongoing romance with the kicking net

[Hugh]

Seahawks are Superbowl bound /s

I'm not jumping off the bridge after 3 games. Not my first season. The Seahawks haven't played well yet but they usually start slow. Look how bad the Raiders looked Sunday night? Do you think they're that bad?
Seattle has the horses but it just hasn't clicked. It will.

[Sanosuke]

Youre implying the Redskins are bad defensively this season, or at least haven't improved since last season. They've only given up 1 more point to opposing teams than the Seahawks right now. 200 less yards of total offense than the Seahawks, and created 5 more turnovers than the seahawks.

I'm not saying the Redskins defense is as good as Seattle's, but I'm just comparing them against one of the consensus best defenses in the NFL through 3 weeks. Oakland also had to go across the country to play them and there. The Rams are not trash offensively or defensively and they played them close and won @ LA.

The Raiders need to figure themselves out on offense. Cooper has bricks for hands. His numbers have always been based off volume, not on how effective he is imo and everyone loves Cooper based off potential but the league is and always will be about "what have you done for me lately?".

Through 3 weeks the 49ers have given up the 4th most points but only 9 of those came from the Seahawks. That was a Seattle home game too.

I just think you don't have real expectations for Seattle. At this point they're a wildcard team at best.

[Sanosuke]

@ Gypsy, this is from r/fantasy football

"I'm convinced that the Chiefs have a starter ceremony where they take what's left of their previous RB and have the new one just hover over their lifeless corpse like a dementor in Harry Potter and just suck his football essence until he's nothing but a lifeless husk that they turn and wheel out the back door never to be seen again. See: Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Spencer Ware"

[Hugh]

If the Seahawks are a wildcard team at best how are you going to explain it when they win the NFC West?
I could ramble on but just look at the division and look at Seattle. QB, coach and defense. It's 3 games. They're notorious for starting slow. They'll get it going.

[bludhoundz]

Yeah I don't think SF has a shot at the division. Arizona is not a good team. Its between Seattle and LA imo, LA may be a little more complete all around (yet to see w Goff tho) but they are extremely young and Seattles been there done that

[Maverik]

SEA probably wins the division by default because the NFC West blows, but they won't go anywhere come playoff time.

Hugh may be in denial about that, but the writing has been on the wall since last year and only Seahawks fans had much hope beyond that.

they're pretty painful to watch right now though, so I do hope they find some life

[Sanosuke]

If the Seahawks are a wildcard team at best how are you going to explain it when they win the NFC West?
I could ramble on but just look at the division and look at Seattle. QB, coach and defense. It's 3 games. They're notorious for starting slow. They'll get it going.

The classic "I could ramble on" instead of trying to provide any basis. Gonna laugh if they lose to colts

[The Butcher]

But the giants suck ass, right? We agree on that.

[Hugh]

So now you're actually doubting my ability to ramble on about my Seahawks. Wow.
Have we met? My name's Hugh.

[bludhoundz]

Yeah the Giants suck ass this year.

Philly isn't exactly great though. I mean, our passing game was so anemic through the first 2 games and it suddenly woke up against the Eagles. They need to get healthy on the back end, and maybe that wont even be enough to stop the bleeding in some games.

[The Butcher]

I like a lot of what I see in Philadelphia football so far.

Except Sproles, Peters getting hurt every play, and the return game could be better.

[Sanosuke]

@ gypsy https://i.imgur.com/SijLRZg.gifv

[bdog1321]

Anyone think the giants win this week at tb?

[Sanosuke]

If their offense was like it was Sunday, they have a chance

[Hugh]

Nantz- As a kid from Wisconsin you must have dreamed about playing in Lambeaugh Field.
Romo- As a kid from Wisconsin I had lots of dreams. Most of them turned into nightmares in 2014 with the whole Catch/No Catch thing. But I’m over it, let’s just call the game.

Lol. Seriously, that’s great shit.

[Hugh]

So the game is on weather delay and Chris Rose just introduced David Carr as ”Superbowl Champion David Carr.”
I mean I know he can’t introduce him as “Eli Manning’s backup” but let’s not be ridiculous.