For NFL fans

[The Cheat]

They will play the season, tons of people will get sick, NFL won't care and keeps things going.

[The One]

Vaccine would help alleviate those concerns but who knows how long that’ll take.

[The Cheat]

Vaccine would help alleviate those concerns but who knows how long that’ll take.

We have been trying to come up with Vaccines for Cancer and other shit for DECADES.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for one.

[The One]

Cam Newton to the Patriots...damn. Just when you think they’re gonna have a down year they make a splashy move.

[The Cheat]

I dislike the move.

[Serge]

Sounds like the Washington football team may finally change their name. Seems to not be a question of if the name will change but whether it will be in time for this season.

[Hulky]

Washington Warriors is what they will change to, and I think it's aight but there has to be a better option.

[Hugh]

About time indeed. Warriors is fine and they should just get it done.

[The Cheat]

Anything is better that what they have now.

[KBHoleN1]

I saw three good suggestions in the reddit thread on this (all in jest):


Change the mascot to a potato and let them keep Redskins
The Washington States (to troll the State of Washington)
The Washington Supersonics

[The Cheat]

If they change it, it will be to something dumb.

[KickAssPlaya]

Damn Mahomes is getting paid! :O

[Hugh]

If they change it, it will be to something dumb.

It won’t be dumber than the Houston Texans. That’s like naming a team the Los Angeles Californians.
It also won’t than the Redskins.

[Burnout278]

I like reminding my Falcons co-worker of 28-3

[The Cheat]

It won’t be dumber than the Houston Texans. That’s like naming a team the Los Angeles Californians.
It also won’t than the Redskins.

True. That is the worst name ever.

I like reminding my Falcons co-worker of 28-3

No. Not cool.

[Hulky]

95% sure it's the Washington Warriors

When Dan Synder bought the rights to an arena team he was going to name them the Warriors so he obviously likes the name and probably owns the rights to the name from thinking about arena in 99. With Warriors they dont need to change the logo or anything immediately either.

[Hugh]

Mahomes signs a 10 year deal worth $450 million.
Cam Newton signs a 1 year deal worth $550k, plus incentives.

[Hulky]

Mahomes signs a 10 year deal worth $450 million.
Cam Newton signs a 1 year deal worth $550k, plus incentives.

that's not really accurate

Cam Newton
Base Salary $1,050,000
Roster Bonus +$87,500
Per game active bonus: +$43,750 ($700,000 LTBE [likely to be earned bonus])
Incentives: +$6.5M
Deadcap: $550,000 (only matters if he is cut this is how much the Patriots cap gets hit)


Basically if Cam starts and is healthy and plays like healthy Cam (not necessarily MVP Cam) it's 1 year $8,337,500 (or $1,837,500 if he makes the team as second or third string and never plays)

Mahomes 2020 deal is
Base salary: $825,000
Signing bonus: $10,000,000
So his 1 year 2020 salary is 10,825,000


The signing bonus is given to him right away but counts as 2mil per year for 5 years.

The rest is structured like this (these are the years with the signing bonus attached from above)
2020 $825,000 + 0 roster bonus (you have to be on roster to collect this, it's not guaranteed unless you are on the team by X day at the start of the league year)
2021 $990,000 + $21,716,905 roster bonus (so 22.x mil)
2022 $1,500,000 + $27,400,000 roster bonus (29.x mil)
2023 $5,500,000 + $34,400,000 roster bonus (40.x mil)
2024 $2,500,000 + $34,900,000 roster bonus (38 mil)

from 2025 to 2031 there is $0 dead cap space. So the Chiefs can leave at any point from there on out. This is relevant because he has a $59,950,000 number at 2027 which if he isn't today or better Pat Mahomes that's an obvious exit point for them.

Assuming they don't pay that 60mil year or anything after that this is a 5 year deal for 141.4mil with two team option years $41,950,000 per year (making it 7 years) no guarantee or penalty to cut, then the expensive years (60mil, 45mil, 45mil, 50mil, 52mil).

Russell Wilson got 4 yrs / $140,000,000
So Mahomes got 5 yrs / $141,481,905

lot less expensive if you look at it that way (which is how they actually pay it out, he very likely wont get the 60mil year or anything past that unless its market value or underpaid at that point)

[The Cheat]

Who will be the first athlete to have a billion dollar contract?

[Hulky]

Who will be the first athlete to have a billion dollar contract?

Maybe a baseball player if they got called up stupid fast and were insanely good... and probably a Yankee.

[Da Gyps]

Sounds like the Washington football team may finally change their name. Seems to not be a question of if the name will change but whether it will be in time for this season.

KC is going to as well. Mahomes spoke on it, so it's just a matter of time.

[Hulky]

KC is going to as well. Mahomes spoke on it, so it's just a matter of time.

Really? KC is super popular in the Navy because of Chiefs (like 80% of Navy chiefs love the KC Chiefs). I didn't ever feel like KC Chiefs or Arrowhead Stadium were racist. Redskins though is probably should change it.

[Da Gyps]

Really? KC is super popular in the Navy because of Chiefs (like 80% of Navy chiefs love the KC Chiefs). I didn't ever feel like KC Chiefs or Arrowhead Stadium were racist. Redskins though is probably should change it.

I might be confused on this tbh. Heard something in passing about it but could not find any evidence online Mahomes said anything my bad.

[bludhoundz]

I kinda like the idea of the Washington Redwolves that's been floating around. I don't know why, because I didn't know redwolves were a thing or were even one word. Maybe it's dumb, but it seems more original and kinda cooler than the Warriors

[Gryph]

What I wouldn't give for him to name it Washington sniksdeR.

this is why I'll never be in a position of power because my pettiness will do something like that.

[The Cheat]

What I wouldn't give for him to name it Washington sniksdeR.

this is why I'll never be in a position of power because my pettiness will do something like that.

That's not cool or funny.

[Hulky]

Supposedly some scandal involving the Skins is going to break before a name breaks

[Hulky]

"10 years the Redskins has hidden and protected men in the building against sexual assault and harassment allegations and legal action. Front office and team personnel fucking media members in exchange for scoops and leaks. Protecting leadership, coaches, players from getting in trouble with their wives, etc and then using that information for blackmail, leaks and to keep people obedient."

Probably involves baby Gruden, his staff and the front office that was recently fired covering up for them.

Big oof. Shit organization. They should have waited on the name change and just forced Snyder to sell and let the new owner handle a name change as a symbol of a new organization top to bottom with a clean break from this toxic bs.


edit: heard this rumor too
Dan Snyder abuses drugs and alcohol
Snyder paid off refs. Some refs have made $2 million from him. And Snyder is not the only team owner paying off refs. Others do it too.
Snyder and former Redskins coach Jay Gruden, brother of Jon Gruden, pimped out their cheerleaders to season ticket holders while holding their passports from them in a foreign country
Jay Gruden and then Redskins running back Kapri Bibbs were sleeping with the same woman. When Jay found out, he got petty and benched Bibbs. During that game when Bibbs was on the bench, Bibbs' replacement missed a block and that resulted in quarterback Alex Smith suffering a broken leg. Alex hasn't been able to play football ever since
Snyder and Gruden would hold sex parties with rampant drug usage and some sexual assaults
Snyder held nude photoshoots with the the Redskins cheerleaders
Lawyers are already involved, and possibly the FBI”

[Burnout278]

Jesus, it's good this shit is being brought to the front. There is so much scummy shit coming out this year.

[The Cheat]

Damn I figured shit was bad but holy crap.

Paying off the refs hasn't worked since they still lose all the time.

[Hulky]

Apparently none of that was in the report so those Twitter rumors are maybe fake.

The article had 15 female employees talk about toxic work environment and sexual harassment.

[The Cheat]

Ah. I see.

[Serge]

A lot of people think all the hype before the story dropped was Snyder's people setting the story up to get a reaction of "oh that's nothing compared to the rumors."

[The Cheat]

I still don't see how they can safely do the season.

[bludhoundz]

How you pay off the refs and barely win any games lmao

I heard they did some messed up shit with the cheerleaders in like Mexico or some shit too

This is wild

[Hugh]

I still don't see how they can safely do the season.

Neither do I.

[The Cheat]

Tom Brady is going to fail so hard in Tampa.

[Hulky]

Tom Brady is going to fail so hard in Tampa.

I think just proving it's his success not New England's is enough for him to succeed this year. He's also broken hella FL rules training with a lot of the offense in parks and whatnot that are "closed" so maybe he's a bit ahead of the curve of competition? I dunno. I think his hate will carry him year 1 of Tampa. Dunno past that.

[The Cheat]

They won't make the playoffs.

[KBHoleN1]

Washington Football Team

[bdog1321]

We doing fantasy this year?

[Burnout278]

Washington Football Team

I really hope they make merch that people can buy. I really want a Washington football team Jersey

[Hulky]

We doing fantasy this year?

I renewed the league a day or three ago but we'd need a date to draft and whatnot discuss rule/point changes if needed if wanted.

[The Cheat]

i support the rock buying it. i mean why not?

[Hugh]

Yeah, pretty sure The Rock has never heard an idea he doesn’t like. Clearly he’s never read a script he doesn’t like.

[Hulky]

Sorry for no responding, when the league renews it auto renews each team. So someone has to come out and say they are dropping out which I havent heard.

[The Cheat]

Why wouldn't you drop out at this point?

[bludhoundz]

Sorry for no responding, when the league renews it auto renews each team. So someone has to come out and say they are dropping out which I havent heard.

I'm not interested in doing FF this season.

I'm interested in being back next year, so I'll play if that's the only way to hold my spot for the future. But I think this season is gonna be riddled with bullshit that we can't predict (mostly players getting sick or games getting cancelled), so I don't want to deal with the stress of figuring out my lineup and waivers regarding that type of nonsense.

[The Cheat]

No way they play a full season.

[bdog1321]

LET'S DO THIS FF THING FUCKOs

don't be like that bludz

[Burnout278]

Half a season, cowboys can finally go undefeated

[The Cheat]

Half a season, cowboys can finally go undefeated

in what will be a shorten season, that could happen.

[Burnout278]

in what will be a shorten season, that could happen.

Unless they go 4-4, which is also a massive possibility. Maybe if they had some amazing quarterback.....Like someone sitting in a booth calling exactly what was going to happen. Possible the GOAT of Cowboys Qbs. Tony Romo

[Hugh]

Yeah, maybe Romo can go for his 3rd broken back. The hat trick. Or maybe he’ll get COVID.
Or maybe he’ll make it to the last game and get fucked by the refs or hit from behind and throw a game-losing interception.
I’m sure he’d give up his comfy chair and headset and awesome job fascinating fans with the football knowledge to do that.:)

[Burnout278]

Yeah, maybe Romo can go for his 3rd broken back. The hat trick. Or maybe he’ll get COVID.
Or maybe he’ll make it to the last game and get fucked by the refs or hit from behind and throw a game-losing interception.
I’m sure he’d give up his comfy chair and headset and awesome job fascinating fans with the football knowledge to do that.:)

Is it odd, it kind feels like he would?

[Hugh]

Lol. Yeah he probably would.

[The Cheat]

Nah. Jim Nantz wouldn't let him go.

Can you believe Alex Smith is trying to play again?

[Burnout278]

Nah. Jim Nantz wouldn't let him go.

Can you believe Alex Smith is trying to play again?

I heard Kevin Nash is his rehab partner

[Hulky]

TAO Fantasy Football Draft is today at 4pm PST (7EST)

[Hugh]

Go Hawks!

[KickAssPlaya]

You misspelled Patriots, Hugh! ;)

[Hulky]

I think the craziest thing in week 1 is the Jaguars and Redskins both won. Thought for sure they'd be among the 5 worst teams in the NFL, and they beat pretty good on paper teams in the Colts and Eagles too.

[The Cheat]

Glad the bucs are who I thought they were

[Hulky]

Weird we are almost to the end of the first half of the Giants game and Blud (I assume 0) has more rushing yards than Saquon (-6) right now.

[bdog1321]

how bout them cowboys

[KickAssPlaya]

Russell Wilson is dropping all kind of dimes tonight. Like make a bad throw please... :(

[Hugh]

Yeah he’s locked in. Still can’t believe we stopped Cam at the end. Honestly thought he was going to walk in.

[KickAssPlaya]

It was too predictable. Should have done a pop up pass like the series prior. Hell of a game though. I was impressed about what Cam was able to do despite our defense being torched lol.

[The Cheat]

Yeah he’s locked in. Still can’t believe we stopped Cam at the end. Honestly thought he was going to walk in.

Maybe but since everyone and their mother knew what was coming play wise, nope.

it was a good game...even if I hated both teams.

[Hugh]

It was too predictable. Should have done a pop up pass like the series prior. Hell of a game though. I was impressed about what Cam was able to do despite our defense being torched lol.

Cam torched our defense too. We couldn’t stop him. Nobody could really stop anyone all game. That’s why it came down to the last play on the goal line yet again. Crazy.

[Hulky]

I wonder what kind of contract Cam gets after this year

[Greendaybum5]

Don't see how Cam leaves NE

[KickAssPlaya]

I know this is early, but I hope we secure him for longer. I was pretty excited to see how McDaniels and the master mind would game plan for him. He has a nice chip on his shoulder this year, so I hope he is able to stay injury free.

[The Cheat]

McDaniels? Master mind? lol.

[Greendaybum5]

McDaniels? Master mind? lol.

i think he's referring to belicheck as master mind

[KickAssPlaya]

Yeah I was.


Who decided Miami vs Jaguars was worthy of a prime time game :unsure:

[The Cheat]

Ah. I misread that then. It happens.

I watch the game because I had nothing else to watch. It wasn't good but not god awful. Miami played well.

[bludhoundz]

Yeah I was.


Who decided Miami vs Jaguars was worthy of a prime time game :unsure:

Thursday night usually has a few stinkers

They love to put Cleveland and Jacksonville on Thursday

[Burnout278]

49'ers are a good and lucky team.

[Hugh]

2 things I don’t understand at all.
1) Black holes
2) How Dan Quinn is still the head coach of the Falcons

[Hulky]

Lost $40 on daily fantasy because Russell Wilson kneeled to win the game the -1 yard killed me lol fml

[bludhoundz]

2 things I don’t understand at all.
1) Black holes
2) How Dan Quinn is still the head coach of the Falcons

He really shouldn't be. It makes absolutely no sense. He should honestly be fired right now (hell, probably should've been a year ago), but their foolishness would be beyond incomprehensible if he isn't fired before next season.

[The Cheat]

Wonder if the Falcons are doing this on purpose so he can get fired...

[Hulky]

Hard to believe only 4 minutes left and Lamar has yet to pass the 100 yard passing mark. Crazy how bad the Ravens have been this game compared to what was expected.

[bludhoundz]

That game moved Lamar Jackson outside of my top 5 QBs

I honestly only had him there based largely on the success from last year, and even then I was skeptical and tempted to put other guys like Dak ahead of him (but I do hate the Cowboys). He didn't play anything like an MVP last night. In my opinion his game is far too predicated on running and the Ravens simply are not built to come from behind. So they look dominant when they win in blowouts and close games, but the games they lose are kinda ugly. Compare to the Chiefs who erased a 20+ point deficit last year in the playoffs and made short work of a 50 burger afterwards. Sure, the Chiefs are also just obviously better (and the best set of weapons in the league too, sure), but their QB has the ability to flip the game in a variety of gamescripts, whereas the Ravens can't afford to fall too far behind.

Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Watson remain my top 4. In that order but really I'd have no problem swapping the first two. Prescott may be 5th. I may be higher on Watson than most but I think the gap between him and Mahomes is smaller than people think - he just got stuck with a worse supporting cast and coach

[Greendaybum5]

I think Josh Allen has to be on that list based on his performance this year. Incredibly impressed by him so far.

[The Cheat]

But fuck Wilson tho

[KickAssPlaya]

But fuck Wilson tho

Why do you hate Wilson?

I think if Allen can keep the momentum going then he will be there. He had flashes last year.

[Hugh]

Haters gonna hate.
Wilson is dialed in like nobody ever has been. 14 TDs in the first 3 games and his 1 interception bounced directly off the hands of a future HOF TE.
He’s basically been perfect.

[The Cheat]

Why do you hate Wilson?



Because he is a prick, acts fake as hell, and plays for a team I don't want to see win.

That being said he wins MVP this year if healthy. I mean that was one story ESPN talked about last month or so "Wilson has ever gotten a mvp vote!?!"

Done and done.

[Hugh]

Go hawks!!

[KickAssPlaya]

Hmm. I don’t think I’ve ever thought of Wilson as a prick.. always felt he was under rated. He has been playing lights out this year though so far.

[Hugh]

Nobody says he’s a prick except TC.:)
I mean he’s a Jesus freak and a rally boy and cringy on social media and probably the kind of morning person who would make most of us want to commit murder at 5am, but I’ve never heard anyone say he’s a prick.
Guy spends more time with cancer kids than a doctor.

[bludhoundz]

I think Josh Allen has to be on that list based on his performance this year. Incredibly impressed by him so far.
Based on just this year perhaps but I am accounting for the past couple years. He has definitely looked really good

Also I think Joe Burrow is going to be really good his awareness seems legit, but that's more of a down the road thing

[Hugh]

So Frank Gore is the starting RB for the Jets? Wtf??
Is his backup Freeman McNeil?

[Hulky]

So Frank Gore is the starting RB for the Jets? Wtf??
Is his backup Freeman McNeil?

He is the third all time rusher now too lol

[Greendaybum5]

So Frank Gore is the starting RB for the Jets? Wtf??
Is his backup Freeman McNeil?

the kind of shape this guy has to be in to still be playing RB after all these years is nuts to think about. literally last what 4x the average NFL career? At the position with shortest lifespan.

[The Cheat]

Frank Gore isn't human.

Also his son plays college football now.

[bludhoundz]

Imagine his son joins the NFL and he's still playing too

[Zoticus]

Now I'm hoping that happens.

[Hulky]

His son isn't that good to make that leap I don't think. Kinda like Barry Sanders Jr and Jerry Rice Jr a couple years ago, like they get their try out for respect of their dad and disappear.

[|AFO|]

Cam has COVID. KC over NE confirmed.

[Hulky]

Cam has COVID. KC over NE confirmed.

No... KC v. NEP is postponed (and it already was because the KC backup also has COVID)

[|AFO|]

They’re playing tonight aren’t they?

[Hugh]

Yep

[|AFO|]

Bills may actually take the division. :o

[The Cheat]

Bills may actually take the division. :o

Good. Someone different for a change.

[KickAssPlaya]

I don’t think they should have started Hoyer.. and too many mistakes. :(

Bills are definitely looking hot right now. Makes for fun conversations when your wife and the in-laws are all bills fans :help:

[The Cheat]

About time Texans fired their coach. Long over due.

[Hulky]

Haskins was benched too for the Football Team

[The Cheat]

Haskins was benched too for the Football Team

Now that was random

[Hugh]

Huge win for the Raiders today. Great game. Congrats, Hulky.

[Hugh]

Also fuck Tom Brady for screaming like a baby and refusing to shake hands after they lost to the Bears.
What a bitch.

[KickAssPlaya]

Now he isn’t my qb.. he was never much of good sport.. lol

Also mad I missed that raiders / chiefs game today

[Hugh]

It was really sad seeing Dak try to pound his ankle back into place on the turf. Clearly in shock.
Such a gruesome injury. I hope he’s ok.

[Hugh]

Also GO HAWKS!!
Russ 4 MVP.

[Hulky]

I still can't believe we beat Kansas City. I really think the game tides changed when Sammy Watkins pulled his hammy and I didn't think he was -that- important before the game.

[The Cheat]

Also fuck Tom Brady for screaming like a baby and refusing to shake hands after they lost to the Bears.
What a bitch.

He always has been and always will be.

How the fuck are the Bears 4-1?

It has more to do with the Raiders defense than anything Hulky. Lots of game film of the offensive of the chiefs now.

[Hulky]

Cowboys are trash, but kinda curious if they are trash enough to get a top pick and then when healthy next year be really good. Prolly still need too much on defense though.

[The Cheat]

So are the Bills frauds?

[KBHoleN1]

I just lost my fantasy football matchup this week by .38 points after Robert Woods took a handoff on a sweep, got tackled for a 4 yard loss and fumbled. Went from 2 points up, to losing, and the Rams didn’t need to run any offense after that.

[Hulky]

So are the Bills frauds?

I dunno if I'd call them frauds, they are the best team in the AFC east... but that early season pace Josh Allen was on to carry them at an elite level was unsustainable for sure

[The Cheat]

The bears are bad. How they have won so many already i don't get it.

[Hugh]

DK Metcalf is kind of a big deal.

[The Cheat]

Patriots suck now.

That is so damn good.

[Hulky]

Patriots suck now.

That is so damn good.

Just don't suck enough to draft Trevor Lawrence please

[The Cheat]

Just don't suck enough to draft Trevor Lawrence please

The jets exist.

[Gryph]

They'll draft him and ruin him just like everything else they touch.

Also, I've returned to complain that I'm 4th highest scorer in the league and have the most points scored against me. Seeing "Don't Touchdown There would be 96-48 if they played every team each week" only to see myself at 3-5 just makes me sad to no end. Might as well change my team name to the fuckin Falcons.

Also hello people.

[KickAssPlaya]

Just don't suck enough to draft Trevor Lawrence please

I think they should...

[bludhoundz]

Trevor Lawrence said his football team right now is better than the Jets so I think it's a possibility that he would demand to be traded if they drafted him.

[The Cheat]

Trevor Lawrence said his football team right now is better than the Jets so I think it's a possibility that he would demand to be traded if they drafted him.

So he'd pull a Elway/Eli then? Interesting.

[Hugh]

Seahawks really dropped a turd today. Our defense has given up more yards through 8 games than any team in history.
Let me repeat that.
More yards given up than any team in history.
It’s amazing that we are 6-2.

[Hulky]

I'm still not sure the Raiders beat the Chargers that was a TD by Parham in my eyes I'm not sure what I'm missing, but Im also too scared to ask my fellow Raider fans lol

[Zoticus]

My picks from last week and for tonight:
GB vs SF: GB - W :dance:
NYG vs WAS: WAS - W :-(
CHI vs TEN: TEN - W :dwarf:
DET vs MIN: MIN - W :orc:
CAR vs KC: KC - W :smile:
HOU vs JAX: HOU - W :hi:
BAL vs IND: BAL - W :dance:
SEA vs BUF: BUF - W :lol:
DEN vs ATL: DEN - W :-(
LV vs LAC: LV - W :wub:
PIT vs DAL: PIT - W :hi:
MIA vs ARI: ARI - W :-(
NOLA vs TB: NOLA - W :ok:
NE vs NYJ: NE - W

[The Cheat]

Bucs got fucked.

Very good.

[The One]

49ers have over half of their team on IR and their season is well over, so at this point I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers win it all. Aaron Rodgers is from Chico, CA and played in college for California...

[The Cheat]

49ers have over half of their team on IR and their season is well over, so at this point I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers win it all. Aaron Rodgers is from Chico, CA and played in college for California...

I have heard of worse reasons to root for someone.

[Hulky]

What is a harder theoretical path to the suberbowl:

A) having to beat the Steelers and Chiefs in away games for AFC
B) having to beat Packers and Seahawks in away games for NFC

[Hugh]

Steelers and Chiefs.
Seahawks are in a tough division but have an easy schedule. After the rematch with AZ I think we go Eagles, Giants, Jets, Washington. We’re good but they might actually get to 12 wins and that record would be deceiving. Seattle has major problems on defense and that’s healthy.
Green Bay is very good but they’ve looked like shit a couple of times too. And we all know if Rogers isn’t perfect in the playoffs, they lose. And occasionally he’s not perfect.
The Steelers are flat better than either Seattle or GB and I still think KC is the best team in the league.

[KBHoleN1]

I agree, Hugh. There's no way I want to play in Pittsburgh in January.

[Hugh]

Definitely not. That’s the other thing. Pitt/KC homefield advantage has to be better than GB/Seattle this year if for no other reason than Seattle hasn’t had fans in the stadium at all. I don’t think that’s going to change.

[The Cheat]

I agree, Hugh. There's no way I want to play in Pittsburgh in January.

Assuming Big Ben is healthy

[Gryph]

Assuming Big Ben is healthy

What's scary though is even if he isn't, if Mason Rudolph could manage anywhere in the ballpark of 20-27 points, they'll probably end up winning. No team so far this year has hung 30 on em yet.

[The Cheat]

The Titans are a sham

[bdog1321]

cowboys are winning the super bowl

[Hugh]

You poor, poor, delusional bastard.

[The Cheat]

You poor, poor, delusional bastard.

I mean they can still win the division and make the playoffs...then who knows?

[Hugh]

Everybody knows, except bdog.
Shit even he knows.

[bludhoundz]

I know the narrative for the Cowboys this season is the Dak Prescott injury, but it also looked like the McCarthy hiring was terrible prior to that even. Their defense was even admitting their coaches don't get on them to play harder.

I always suspected he might have just been leeching off having fantastic QBs in Favre and Rodgers, and it definitely started to look like it at the tail end of his time in Green Bay too

[Hulky]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmqDQAFXEAQiaam?format=jpg&name=small

Sinkhole opened up and dropped two cars in the 49ers parking lot

[The Cheat]

if that isn't a metaphor for their season then I don't know what is.

[bdog1321]

The cowboys are winning the super bowl

[The Cheat]

People said preseason the Bucs were going to win the Super Bowl. Bitch please.

[Hugh]

The cowboys are winning the super bowl

Good game.

[The Cheat]

I know the narrative for the Cowboys this season is the Dak Prescott injury, but it also looked like the McCarthy hiring was terrible prior to that even. Their defense was even admitting their coaches don't get on them to play harder.

I always suspected he might have just been leeching off having fantastic QBs in Favre and Rodgers, and it definitely started to look like it at the tail end of his time in Green Bay too

This is exactly the case. No question

[Hugh]

The Raiders/Falcons score has to be the most surprising of the season.

[The Cheat]

The Raiders/Falcons score has to be the most surprising of the season.

Just when i think the Raiders can be good, they lose to a team like Atlanta.

My Browns are 8-3. Feels odd to say that.

[Hugh]

Browns are the sneakiest 8-3 team in history. Especially in that division. Impressive.

[The Cheat]

Browns are the sneakiest 8-3 team in history. Especially in that division. Impressive.

Well mostly because the Ravens decided to just suck this year and then went "HEY! Let's all get the virus!"

[bludhoundz]

I expected the Ravens offense to decline but the defense is a bit of a mystery to me. On paper it looks so good, I guess injuries are holding them back? Their front 7 looks ferocious and they have some good corners too.

[Hulky]

Browns are the sneakiest 8-3 team in history. Especially in that division. Impressive.

kinda schedule related tbh
Bengals ([x2] 2-8-1), Skins (4-7), Cowboys (3-8), Texans (4-7), Eagles (4-7), Jaguars (1-10) isn't really an impressive 7 games to win. Colts was the only "oh nice job"

still got their asses beat 38-6 by the Ravens and 38-7 by the Steelers

[The Cheat]

kinda schedule related tbh
Bengals ([x2] 2-8-1), Skins (4-7), Cowboys (3-8), Texans (4-7), Eagles (4-7), Jaguars (1-10) isn't really an impressive 7 games to win. Colts was the only "oh nice job"

still got their asses beat 38-6 by the Ravens and 38-7 by the Steelers

...shut up. Shut up now.

[Hugh]

Eagles ruined Wentz when they took the ball away from the Superbowl MVP and handed the job back to him.
A job he did not earn and could not prove he deserved without winning another SB, since that was the bar. If they didn’t factor that pressure into the decision, then they’re idiots. It’s Philadelphia. The toughest town in the NFL, and you have a Super Bowl winning team with a QB under 30 who just delivered and an opportunity to sell an injury prone Wentz for the biggest payload since the Herschel Walker trade.
I said it was stupid the minute they did it. And it DOES NOT MATTER if Foles would have also gotten injured or any other hypothetical scenario. What matters is what they actually did and the actually results of that decision. The Eagles offense is in shambles, Wentz is the worst starting QB in the league and they probably won’t even win the worst division in football.

[Hugh]

RGIII, who I completely forgot was still in the league, replaces Jackson for 1 game and gets hurt.
Truly unbelievable

[The Cheat]

RGIII, who I completely forgot was still in the league, replaces Jackson for 1 game and gets hurt.
Truly unbelievable

He is just cursed I guess.

[bludhoundz]

Giants with a huuge win! I didn't give us much of a chance with our starting QB out but the defense played absolutely lights out. Leonard Williams 2.5 sacks, Peppers made all sorts of plays, Bradberry did a good job on Metcalf, and our no-name linebackers came up with takeaways. Colt McCoy barely cracked 100 yards passing but still got the W. wild

[Hulky]

I told my wife this is the game Gruden shits the bed and kills our playoff hopes and the Jets fans will also be pissed winning and putting the #1 pick in jeopardy. I kinda sorta think the Jets tanked the final play (especially) and a couple plays around that. To blitz and spy Derek Carr (lol) in a no TO 15 seconds and like 50 yards to go down by 4, then have UDFA rookie CB Lamar Jackson 1 on 1 with Ruggs was pure stupidity. Jackson even bit on Ruggs little fake as if he'd do anything other than go deep in that scenario.

[Hugh]

Giants with a huuge win! I didn't give us much of a chance with our starting QB out but the defense played absolutely lights out. Leonard Williams 2.5 sacks, Peppers made all sorts of plays, Bradberry did a good job on Metcalf, and our no-name linebackers came up with takeaways. Colt McCoy barely cracked 100 yards passing but still got the W. wild

Literally can’t believe we lost to the Giants with Colt McCoy and no Barkley. Unfuckingreal.
No excuses. Seahawks are one of the healthiest teams in the league and at this stage of the season should be totally dialed-in. They just shit the bed. It’s like Russ just refused to throw the ball today, and even though Carson was averaging 9 yards a carry we didn’t run the ball.
Giants defense did okay great. No question. And we couldn’t get McCoy and Alfred Morris off the field when we had to, which is pathetic really.
Oh well.

[The Cheat]

Steelers lose for the first time...to Washington of all teams?!?

[bdog1321]

The Dallas cowboys will win the superb owl

[The Cheat]

The Dallas cowboys will win the superb owl

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/1/1c/Owl_trans.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20111214010602?

[Hulky]

Patriots eliminated from playoffs.

Kinda weird this is the first time in some NFL players lives this has happened lol.

[KickAssPlaya]

Sad day.. but one that has been coming.

Kinda want to the Bills to take it but they will need the defense to keep tightening up.

[bludhoundz]

Sad day.. but one that has been coming.

Kinda want to the Bills to take it but they will need the defense to keep tightening up.

only a Pats fan could say this

Every other NFL team lost to their rival teams enough to have learned to hate them and never wish for their victory lol

[The Cheat]

Patriots eliminated from playoffs.

Kinda weird this is the first time in some NFL players lives this has happened lol.

And what a good feeling it is

only a Pats fan could say this

Every other NFL team lost to their rival teams enough to have learned to hate them and never wish for their victory lol

Damn right.

[KickAssPlaya]

only a Pats fan could say this

Every other NFL team lost to their rival teams enough to have learned to hate them and never wish for their victory lol

Yeah I would rather not see the Dophins or Jets (lol) win.

Probably helps my wife is a Bills fan. Should have put that in the original post I suppose. lol.


I am also not the crazy fan.. I just enjoy good games regardless of who's playing :) I will happily talk some shit, but at the end of the day no team pays me or a ring :P

[The Cheat]

Get fucked Steelers. Ha I love it.

[Hugh]

I’m watching Inside the NFL this morning. It’s a shitty show now but I’m just having coffee and watching it because it’s on.
They’re interviewing Joe Namath about the Jets. Phil Sims, a fucking moron, interviewing Joe Namath, probably the biggest fucking moron to ever win a Suberbowl.
Namath was a bad QB by any metric. Look up his stats if you don’t believe me. On top of being bad he’s also an idiot.
My dad is an idiot. If you talked to my dad for 20 minutes about the Jets or the NFL you would learn more than you would from Joe Namath. How can anyone be this stupid?
Why do they keep interviewing a person this stupid? This is why I stopped watching Inside the NFL years ago. It’s dumb.
The show is dumb and the people on it are dumb. I sincerely hope it gets cancelled.
Rant complete.

[bludhoundz]

I agree, it's shit.

[Hulky]

Dwayne Haskins cut.

> Giants on the clock, TV cuts to Dwayne Haskins who laughs at the Giants taking Jones over him
> Redskins select Haskins roughly 10 picks later in the middle of the 1st round, Dwayne Haskins is showing his phone to everyone like his mom and the TV camera with the phone number calling him. His naked girlfriend, who is sitting beside him, is his phone's background picture.
> Says the NFL messed up when he was taken top 20.
> Has rough rookie year
> Goes on GQ and shares how he spent his first million. Most rookies buy a couple stupid things, then like an investment like a house. Dwayne bought a Bentley, jewelry and clothing.
> Gets benched year two for literally every QB on the roster.
> Alex Smith goes down and Dwayne Haskins gets another shot.
> Dwayne Haskins parties with strippers maskless in the COVID era while his HC has cancer
> Haskins starts again and is benched, falls asleep on the bench during the game (supposedly).
> Dwayne Haskins cut heading in to week 17 with the playoffs on the line.

Is he the new Jamarcus?

[Hugh]

He’s on the same path. Let’s see how much weight he gains in the off-season.

[Hugh]

But yeah, cut in week 17? Like you said, with playoffs still in the picture?
Talk about a team telling you you’re a fuckup.

[The Cheat]

I find it funny that the Cowboys can actually win the division next week lol.

[Hulky]

related post from a football forum I'm on:

"Giants are the first team in history that can finish at any spot in the division going into the final week.

In fact, the Giants draft pick could be as high as 3 or as low as 32."

[The Cheat]

related post from a football forum I'm on:

"Giants are the first team in history that can finish at any spot in the division going into the final week.

In fact, the Giants draft pick could be as high as 3 or as low as 32."

Holy shit really? Fucking hell.

[Hugh]

Eagles should fire Doug Pederson. Should have fired the idiot at halftime on Sunday.

[bludhoundz]

Frank Reich was the best coach in Philly during their superbowl run. Once he got hired by the Colts and they became good, it was obvious to me that Pederson got too much credit

[The Cheat]

Eagles should fire Doug Pederson. Should have fired the idiot at halftime on Sunday.

I mean it was obvious he wanted to tank the game...but hide it a little better that that.

[Hugh]

It’s not just that, though. He has ruined that team. Sunday was just the icing on the shit cake he’s been baking all season.

[Greendaybum5]

I mean it was obvious he wanted to tank the game...but hide it a little better that that.

this got blown out of proportion. they announced on saturday that Sudfeld was going to play. There really was no reason to win the game though I don't see the big fuss about it. That being said, as an Eagles fan, I totally agree with you guys that Pederson is overrated. I mean even on "Philly Philly" Foles suggested it lol. He doesn't know how to play to the strength of his players.

Side note - tons of rumors eagles take a QB in the 1st. If that happens i'm going to lose my shit lol. Howie Roseman, while great with trades and free agents, is AWFULLLLLL at drafting. a la DK Metcalf and Justin Jefferson.

[Hugh]

Wow the Seahawks sucked today. Russ played like a rookie all game.
It’s crazy how we went from a great offense and no defense for the first half of the season to the complete opposite the second half. And with almost no injuries. Makes no sense.

[Hulky]

That stat that Floyd has sacked Russ 7 times this season is nuts lol
Prior to this year his career high sacks was 7 lol

[bludhoundz]

What is the Seahawks' offensive identity? I don't really understand it. I think their OC needs to go. The second half of the season collapse reminds me of Rodgers under McCarthy at the end of his days in Green Bay

Then again, they've historically been bad against the Rams. I don't know what the stats are but I feel like KB or I looked them up at some point. I feel like Wilson gets sacked 4-5 times per game against the Rams in his career

[Hulky]

What is the Seahawks' offensive identity? I don't really understand it. I think their OC needs to go. The second half of the season collapse reminds me of Rodgers under McCarthy at the end of his days in Green Bay

Then again, they've historically been bad against the Rams. I don't know what the stats are but I feel like KB or I looked them up at some point. I feel like Wilson gets sacked 4-5 times per game against the Rams in his career

I think the Jets unironically interviewed him for HC

[Serge]

If you're not watching the Buccs v Football Team game you might be missing a big story. Washington is starting a guy who was a BACKUP QB in the XFL and he is balling out.

[Hulky]

You think he is legit as a 2021 option for Football Team? Or just backup like Colt McCoy was for years? He had one high pass but the rest looked very good has had a number of drops that might be hurting his stats.

[Serge]

Haven't been watching enough football this year to make a strong judgement. His measurables are so poor. He's short with mediocre arm strength. But his reads have been flawless this game and he has shown insane ability to avoid pressure and make something happen with his feet.

[Serge]

Man fuck the refs. Clearly favoring the team who will draw way more ratings next week. Two game changing and inexcusabley bad calls both went Brady's way.

[bludhoundz]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/10/social-media-turns-on-qb-taylor-heinicke-after-unearthed-article-on-how-he-felt-about-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-protesters-tweets/?fbclid=IwAR3mkg09ettVKam86a8aBO7OsslLb3Ey7-m7ejT5UvyRmIh6tcpijLrKzgo

tl;dr heinicke getting praised for his play until people were reading his social media and started roasting him for being a trumper

[Hulky]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/10/social-media-turns-on-qb-taylor-heinicke-after-unearthed-article-on-how-he-felt-about-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-protesters-tweets/?fbclid=IwAR3mkg09ettVKam86a8aBO7OsslLb3Ey7-m7ejT5UvyRmIh6tcpijLrKzgo

tl;dr heinicke getting praised for his play until people were reading his social media and started roasting him for being a trumper

Jack Del Rio is essentially the same stances

[bludhoundz]

NFL game on nickelodeon was gold

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[Hugh]

Eagles should fire Doug Pederson. Should have fired the idiot at halftime on Sunday.

Boom.

[Hulky]

Kind of a hilarious fall. Like it's what three years since he won the Eagles their only SB? Then he went to the playoffs in the following years too. Fired for really his only shit year.

Gruden got a 10 year deal a decade+ after beating the Raiders in the SB and is considered untouchable and hasn't had a winning record in his three years back... and traded our only great player in Khalil Mack. Philly is fucking ruthless.

I bet he is either the Jets next HC or winds up back on the Chiefs staff after Eric Bieniemy gets hired somewhere.

[The Cheat]

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/01/10/social-media-turns-on-qb-taylor-heinicke-after-unearthed-article-on-how-he-felt-about-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-protesters-tweets/?fbclid=IwAR3mkg09ettVKam86a8aBO7OsslLb3Ey7-m7ejT5UvyRmIh6tcpijLrKzgo

tl;dr heinicke getting praised for his play until people were reading his social media and started roasting him for being a trumper


That is awesome. Troll the ever loving shit out of him.

Also let me just say FUCK YOU STEELERS! SUCK ON THAT! WOOO!

[Hulky]

The Jets made a good hire Gryph I dunno if your hyped but I assumed he'd pass for a better job tbh

[Hulky]

Amazing the wind caused two Justin Tucker misses and has slaughtered any attempted punts... but the Bills have one rushing attempt and the rest has been passes lol.

[Hugh]

That fumble before halftime really sucks for Cleveland. What shit luck. Changed the entire game.
The football gods can go fuck themselves.

[Hulky]

Did Tom Brady get at least to the Conference Championship Game?

2001: Yes.
2002: No, but finished with a winning record.
2003: Yes.
2004: Yes.
2005: No, but made the playoffs.
2006: Yes.
2007: Yes.
2008: No, but it's also the year he hurt his knee and didn't play.
2009: No, but made the playoffs.
2010: No, but made the playoffs.
2011: Yes.
2012: Yes.
2013: Yes.
2014: Yes.
2015: Yes.
2016: Yes.
2017: Yes.
2018: Yes.
2019: No, but made the playoffs and left the Patriots after the year.
2020: Yes, this time the NFC Championship game, and the Patriots finished 3rd in the AFC East.

It's kinda insane to see written out like that.

[Hugh]

Wow.

[The Cheat]

That fumble before halftime really sucks for Cleveland. What shit luck. Changed the entire game.
The football gods can go fuck themselves.

I know. The chance was there to take it all in the fourth, but couldn't do it. Fuck. :(

I don't care who wins it all now so long as it isn't the Bucs.

[Burnout278]

I don't care who wins it all now so long as it isn't the Bucs.

I need the Bucs to win. I require the Tom Brady hate to fuel me for the year.

[Hugh]

Enough is enough. At this point, anyone rooting for Tom Brady outside of Tampa Bay has no soul, and probably even most people in Tampa Bay.

[Hulky]

State Farm's advertising department has got to be begging for GB v. KC matchup

Patrick Price v. Rodgers Rate

[The Cheat]

Enough is enough. At this point, anyone rooting for Tom Brady outside of Tampa Bay has no soul, and probably even most people in Tampa Bay.

Amen I see people saying anyone but packers but I'm like are you fucking kidding? The evil one is still alive. Until he is gone, there is no joy.

What is fucking worse is the Superbowl is in Tampa. The host city's team has never made it the year it is in their city. I swear if the NFL lets them in the SB and then win it?

I don't know if there is any coming back from that.

[Hulky]

Kinda crazy the Lions are going to trade Stafford, I remember when he was drafted (I was in Tampa at the time) and I did NOT want his rookie card because I thought for sure the Lions would waste him. I ended up getting a lot of Sanchez which worked out because I sold/traded the collection as I left Tampa and Tampa has a lot of NYC seasonal residents so there was a market with the Jets making the playoffs and whatnot back then. It's hard to believe it's like 12 years later or whatever and Stafford is considered late stage career with 1 more extension left in him then maybe some year to year ones after. I think Denver and SF make the most sense.

[The Cheat]

You had one job packers. One fucking job...

[Hulky]

Holy shit you guys see who the Texans hired as HC when Deshaun Watson has basically said hire Eric Bieniemy or trade me? The Ravens WR coach. The Ravens whose passing game is not hot. The Ravens whose only WR you can likely name is Marqise Brown because he was a first round pick and is fast. Okay okay what else has this 66 year old position coach done to get the Texans job? The Chiefs WR coach the year the Chiefs WRs scored 0 TDs in a year. Holy shit Texans get it together fuck. I expect Deshaun to be traded for less than Stafford at this point. What a fucked organization. I bet JJ Watt gets traded as well.

Edit: lol he was also the passing game coach that year the Bills had Peterman trot out and throw 5 picks in a half

[Hugh]

There must be something about Eric Bieniemy’s personality that works amazing as a coordinator but people don’t like as a head coach. I don’t know what else it could be. He’s the coordinator of the best offense in the NFL on the SB champs and players apparently love him. 5 teams interviewed him for head coach and nobody hired him. It’s crazy.

[Hulky]

There must be something about Eric Bieniemy’s personality that works amazing as a coordinator but people don’t like as a head coach. I don’t know what else it could be. He’s the coordinator of the best offense in the NFL on the SB champs and players apparently love him. 5 teams interviewed him for head coach and nobody hired him. It’s crazy.

Rumors are its a combination of his legal troubles in the past, but like Eberflus and Daboll also didnt get jobs and the both of them with Bieniemy should have been on every teams top 5 list.

[The Cheat]

Watson or Stafford will end up on the Jets.

[Burnout278]

Enough is enough. At this point, anyone rooting for Tom Brady outside of Tampa Bay has no soul, and probably even most people in Tampa Bay.


Amen I see people saying anyone but packers but I'm like are you fucking kidding? The evil one is still alive. Until he is gone, there is no joy.

What is fucking worse is the Superbowl is in Tampa. The host city's team has never made it the year it is in their city. I swear if the NFL lets them in the SB and then win it?

I don't know if there is any coming back from that.


You had one job packers. One fucking job...


Yes, the Tom Brady hate is making me strong again. More, send me more of your hate.

[Burnout278]

Kinda crazy the Lions are going to trade Stafford, I remember when he was drafted (I was in Tampa at the time) and I did NOT want his rookie card because I thought for sure the Lions would waste him. I ended up getting a lot of Sanchez which worked out because I sold/traded the collection as I left Tampa and Tampa has a lot of NYC seasonal residents so there was a market with the Jets making the playoffs and whatnot back then. It's hard to believe it's like 12 years later or whatever and Stafford is considered late stage career with 1 more extension left in him then maybe some year to year ones after. I think Denver and SF make the most sense.

Personally I want Stafford on the Saints. That would be a solid change of pace.

[Burnout278]

Personally I want Stafford on the Saints. That would be a solid change of pace.

I say as Detroit send Stafford to the rams. I'm happy for Stafford. I get to eat my words from so long ago

[Hulky]

I like the fit, but hope he gets a shot at the playoffs NFC West is a pretty hard place to land looking for playoff success.

Kinda wonder if this now gives the Lions legit Deshaun Watson ammo though.

[The Cheat]

Goff sucks tho.

[Burnout278]

Goff sucks tho.

He does, but Lions just need to keep him for a few years, and let him tank, so they can get good draft picks.

[Hugh]

Wait, so the plan is for the Lions to suck so they can get good draft picks? Brilliant!
I mean it hasn’t worked for the last 30 years but might as well keep trying.

[Hulky]

Emmanuel Acho
@EmmanuelAcho
Patrick Mahomes will play in 2 Superbowl’s before ever losing an #NFL game by more than 1 possession.

The last time @PatrickMahomes
lost by more than a possession. November 19, 2016 vs. Iowa State.
Exploding head

[The Cheat]

This is so fucking stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_Controlled_Football

[Hugh]

Yep.

[The Cheat]

This article sickens me

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/opinion/tom-brady-super-bowl.html

[Hugh]

Frank Bruni can fuck right off.

[The Cheat]

Frank Bruni can fuck right off.

Damn right. Worst sports article I have read in a very long time.

[Hulky]

Cheat won't like the ad, but I thought it was funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L6juLUkwuw

[Hugh]

I was thinking how sick it is that so many people are rooting for Tom Brady to win ANOTHER Super Bowl.
Then it hit me that 70 million people voted for Donald Trump.
People suck so hard.

[Burnout278]

Wait, so the plan is for the Lions to suck so they can get good draft picks? Brilliant!
I mean it hasn’t worked for the last 30 years but might as well keep trying.

Hey, they might land a really good player with that pick. Then waste his entire career on a subpar team. Give them a little credit

[Burnout278]

I was thinking how sick it is that so many people are rooting for Tom Brady to win ANOTHER Super Bowl.
Then it hit me that 70 million people voted for Donald Trump.
People suck so hard.

I think it is funny how worked up people get over it. I mean, I get the same joy from the LeBron hate. For some reason though, the Tom Brady hate is on another level I don't understand.

[The Cheat]

I was thinking how sick it is that so many people are rooting for Tom Brady to win ANOTHER Super Bowl.
Then it hit me that 70 million people voted for Donald Trump.
People suck so hard.

Amen to that brother.


That ad was a bit lol worthy. I'll give them that

[Hulky]

Buccaneers are going to destroy (win >7 points) the Chiefs because Suh, Vea, Barrett, JPP finna rock that injured OL.

Big facts. Mahomes still going to light up their D goign to Kelce and Tyreek, but that beating is going to come and by the end it will be Tom Brady winning again. I think we all know this. The KC SB starting OL makes less than the Buccs individual LT (Donovan Smith) or G (Ali Marpet) or C (Ryan Jensen) I think. Last time Remmers started at T in a superbowl Von Miller beat the snot out of him and Cam Newton to carry an ancient Peyton to one last ride.

[bludhoundz]

What a terrible timeout by KC. Too aggressive trying to get the ball back with limited time left in the half anyway. Let the bucs feel the pressure and just try to keep it to a 1 score game. Maybe the PI would've happened anyway but I still think it was a bad decision

[rainblade]

KC choked. I know it's not over but it's over.

[Burnout278]

Just rename it the Brady Bowl and move on

[bludhoundz]

Buccaneers are going to destroy (win >7 points) the Chiefs because Suh, Vea, Barrett, JPP finna rock that injured OL.

Big facts. Mahomes still going to light up their D goign to Kelce and Tyreek, but that beating is going to come and by the end it will be Tom Brady winning again. I think we all know this. The KC SB starting OL makes less than the Buccs individual LT (Donovan Smith) or G (Ali Marpet) or C (Ryan Jensen) I think. Last time Remmers started at T in a superbowl Von Miller beat the snot out of him and Cam Newton to carry an ancient Peyton to one last ride.

this aged pretty well

Chiefs choked too though- some big drops and missed plays, a couple bad penalties on defense (one negating a pick). Most impressive throw of the night was 4th down when Mahomes launched the ball while he was basically horizontal to the ground falling over and it was a dime, hit the receiver right in the face, who then dropped it. Cut that guy.

Bucs deserved to win though, their defense was impressive, the offense was well-rounded, and they played mostly mistake-free

[Burnout278]

If KC had their o-line they would have looked way better. It sucks that injury came at the worst time.

[Hugh]

Buccaneers are going to destroy (win >7 points) the Chiefs because Suh, Vea, Barrett, JPP finna rock that injured OL.

Big facts. Mahomes still going to light up their D goign to Kelce and Tyreek, but that beating is going to come and by the end it will be Tom Brady winning again. I think we all know this. The KC SB starting OL makes less than the Buccs individual LT (Donovan Smith) or G (Ali Marpet) or C (Ryan Jensen) I think. Last time Remmers started at T in a superbowl Von Miller beat the snot out of him and Cam Newton to carry an ancient Peyton to one last ride.

Very nice, Hulky. Impressive call.

[The Cheat]

After the game was over, I turned off the tv, and said "what the fuck was that?"

I mean I sadly had a feeling Bucs were going to win. But not like that.

Evil fucking won again. Shit. What a crappy way to end a good season.

[KBHoleN1]

I mean I sadly had a feeling Bucs were going to win. But not like that.

These are pretty much my feelings. Not surprised the Bucs won given their defense. Not surprised to see Brady play well and even to get in a rhythm with Gronk like he did. But it was shocking to see the Chiefs get whipped so badly.

[The Cheat]

I don't get how Chiefs beat them two months ago and then failed so badly in round 2.

[Hugh]

They choked. It’s the Brady effect. Like I said, he made a deal with the devil.
The year after he retires he’ll probably spontaneously combust or some shit.

[rainblade]

Brady beating Brees and Rodgers got in his head.