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[Sanosuke]

Packers front office is full of idiots. See: Brett Favre

[The Butcher]

Didn't even know this thread existed. Are we doing a pick em this year?

lol.

[Mantis]

darren sharper sentenced to 18 years in prison for drugging and raping at least 16 girls. holy shit. that puts a little tint on the old DARREN SHARPER RUNNIN WIT A BROKEN LEG video.

also the broncos were considering him in the first? huh
How do you only get 18 years for raping at least 16 women?


lol.

Oh yeah?

[Hulky]

You were the first post on the second page, maybe that's the lol.

[Mantis]

You were the first post on the second page, maybe that's the lol.

Haha that must be. Did this used to be in general discussion section? I don't remember there being a Sports section until I noticed it the other day.

[Hulky]

"Introducing our Weekly Fantasy Football Contest. Like DFS, but free and with cash prizes - http://walterfootball.com/weeklyfantasycontest "

something I thought some of you might like

[Mantis]

So was that a yay or nay on pickem happening this year?

[Hulky]

I am alright either way. I usually fuck up on ESPN, but I do well on the forum like when we did a group or just another thread or whatever. If it's ESPN again I'll try but I'm sure I'll mess up.

[Da Gyps]

We could just do a separate thread for it. No editing posts rule would be advised.

[bludhoundz]

I rejoined the ESPN pickem group so I thought it was happening

[Da Gyps]

Where the hell is Manon? How can I make fun of the Donkeys trotting Trevor Semen out there if he isn't here damn it?

[Hulky]

I rejoined the ESPN pickem group so I thought it was happening

Can you post the link to the group? It's not available for me to see (to rejoin)

[Mantis]

http://games.espn.com/nfl-pigskin-pickem/2016/en/game?invitesource=email&inviteuser=ezZEMDEyODMyLTc1MjAtNENBRS1CNjE5LUI2RDE zNjYxREYyOX0%3D&ex_cid=ex_cid%3Dpigskin%3F%3F%3F%3F_email

Idk if that link will work. Should be able to rejoin the TAO group. If there's a password, I think it was FREEMANTIS last year.

[Hulky]

Thanks I got in from there, dunno why it didn't pop up for me like past years.

http://games.espn.com/nfl-pigskin-pickem/2016/en/group?groupID=39741

[Da Gyps]

ESPN is completely effed this year, no idea why. Had all kinds of issues with a fantasy league I'm in. Just rejoined my own pick'em league, thanks for posting the link Hulky.

[IROK]

Ayy. Lot of good and bad things tonight but always great to see the Broncos come away with a W, especially given being down by 10. Hopefully they can grow as the season continues but nobody is ever perfect in the first game of the year. Except Peyton two years ago.

[Sanosuke]

Siemian was pretty sharp sans that backfoot INT lob. Probably the best QB option. His release and pocket awareness was very sharp. They need to get more veryical though even if Kubiak is a run first guy

[Hulky]

CJ Anderson looked pretty damn good too.

[Sanosuke]

That antonio brown espn commercial is hilarious.

[IROK]

Is it a reception desk?

[Sanosuke]

Is it a phone call desk or reception desk?

All day long.

[bludhoundz]

there were a few great commercials. like the one where von miller smacked the controller out of the kid's hands when they were playing xbox. then lynch told em you need better people skills

but yeah very exciting season opener. it did not disappoint at all, had all the drama i would ask for

[Da Gyps]

Siemian was pretty sharp sans that backfoot INT lob. Probably the best QB option. His release and pocket awareness was very sharp. They need to get more veryical though even if Kubiak is a run first guy

He threw approximately 100 interceptable passes in that game. However! There were positives, and you can coach decision making (see Smith, Alex).

[Mantis]

Just watched the replays of some of the hits Broncos put on Cam that weren't flagged. If Bengals players like Burfict or Adam Jones would have put those exact same hits on Cam, not only would they be flagged, but they'd be fined and possibly suspended and people would be losing their minds.

[Hugh]

I think it was more about Cam than about who was delivering the hits. Those kinds of hits are flagged almost every time no matter who is behind them, until last night. Yes we've seen one get missed here and there, but Cam took 3 or 4 hits that were obvious helmet to helmet.
The refs might be making a statement about how he plays. He's the most dangerous goal line threat in the league, maybe in the history of the league. Him personally, not his arm. He plays like a straight up power back, lowers his head into defenders all the time. I understand the hits we're talking about were pocket hits and QBs are supposed to be protected, but it seems like the refs were saying if he's going to play like a running back then they're going to treat him like a running back.

[Spencer 555]

I think it was more about Cam than about who was delivering the hits. Those kinds of hits are flagged almost every time no matter who is behind them, until last night. Yes we've seen one get missed here and there, but Cam took 3 or 4 hits that were obvious helmet to helmet.
The refs might be making a statement about how he plays. He's the most dangerous goal line threat in the league, maybe in the history of the league. Him personally, not his arm. He plays like a straight up power back, lowers his head into defenders all the time. I understand the hits we're talking about were pocket hits and QBs are supposed to be protected, but it seems like the refs were saying if he's going to play like a running back then they're going to treat him like a running back.

Its cause hes black

[Hugh]

They're all black.
I don't know how it is in the CFL, but in the NFL all of our players are black.
That's why America has the best football.

[Hugh]

Just saw the working out with Sasquatch commercial with Clay Matthews. Fucking awesome.

[bludhoundz]

haven't seen that one. looking forward to it.

i heard a crazy stat. there wasn't a single roughing the passer penalty called for Cam Newton all of last year.

i think you have a point Hugh, but i also think that helmet to helmet after the ball has been thrown should be called. it makes sense to treat him differently - especially because of the extra armor he wears - but head shots are head shots it doesn't matter how big you are.

[Hugh]

Oh I think it should be called too. Definitely. Refs shouldn't treat Cam any different than any other QB just because he has a different game. Running downfield, he's a ball carrier, like any other, but in the pocket he's a QB and the same rules should apply to him.
It just doesn't seem like they do.

[The Cheat]

Just watched the replays of some of the hits Broncos put on Cam that weren't flagged. If Bengals players like Burfict or Adam Jones would have put those exact same hits on Cam, not only would they be flagged, but they'd be fined and possibly suspended and people would be losing their minds.

Fucking hell. Even when it has nothing to do with Cincy, mantis somehow makes it about Cincy. God Damnit...

[Mantis]

Fucking hell. Even when it has nothing to do with Cincy, mantis somehow makes it about Cincy. God Damnit...

Hi Cheat.

[The Cheat]

Until proven other wise, I declare Mantis to the TAO's number 1 superfan.

My your soul burn in hell for all time.


Of course someone can take the title as time goes on...

[Mantis]

Go me.

[Darkness]

I'm having issues joining the Pick'em group. I'm apparently supposed to "use the buttons to select entries to Join or Leave this group," but I don't see any buttons. Any ideas? I've tried Chrome and Safari.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e45/SheriffPenguin/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-11%20at%209.43.14%20AM.png

[Da Gyps]

:/ That's really odd.

FOOOOOOOOTBALLLLLLLLLL IS BACK BOIZ

[Darkness]

Yeah, oh well. I'll post my picks here for now and hopefully I can fix the issue later.

Falcons
Ravens
Texans
Bengals
Eagles
Packers
Vikings
Chiefs
SAINTS
Seahawks
Giants
Colts
Cardinals
Steelers
RAMS

[Da Gyps]

Welp, Chiefs are really missing Justin Houston.

[bludhoundz]

espn is spazzing right now thats probably why you're having issues joining

[Da Gyps]

Burn it down. Start from scratch.

[Da Gyps]

Time to stream another game.

[Mantis]

Well, that wasn't pretty by any means, but a win is a win!

WHO DEY!

[Burnout278]

The Vikings. Thank god for that defense

[Burnout278]

Announcers at the Raiders game "Hope your kicker has a strong leg"....

[Da Gyps]

My mind has been blown.

[bdog1321]

The giants really suck, but dak is a rookie and our defense is horrible. Hopefully all of the idiots stop clamoring about how he's going to supplant romo now. Romo would have put at least 35 points up today

[Mantis]

I can't believe how many insanely close games there have been in week 1. I missed this.

[Lex]

The giants really suck, but dak is a rookie and our defense is horrible. Hopefully all of the idiots stop clamoring about how he's going to supplant romo now. Romo would have put at least 35 points up today

Doesnt matter, had salsa

[Da Gyps]

The giants really suck, but dak is a rookie and our defense is horrible. Hopefully all of the idiots stop clamoring about how he's going to supplant romo now. Romo would have put at least 35 points up today

Romo last broke 35 points on the Giants in 2013.

[bdog1321]

Romo last broke 35 points on the Giants in 2013.

Did you see how bad their defense was today? That's wholly irrelevant

[Hugh]

The giants really suck, but dak is a rookie and our defense is horrible. Hopefully all of the idiots stop clamoring about how he's going to supplant romo now. Romo would have put at least 35 points up today

I honestly don't get it. People aren't saying he's going to replace Romo because he's better than Romo. They're saying he's going to replace Romo because Romo is falling apart. Do you honestly not see this?
He had a surgically repaired back going into this season and suffered a major injury before it even started. He broke his collar bone twice last year. He can't stay healthy, bdog. It's the truth, whether you like it or not.

[Da Gyps]

Did you see how bad their defense was today? That's wholly irrelevant

Good enough to win and hold Dallas to 19.

[Lex]

I honestly don't get it. People aren't saying he's going to replace Romo because he's better than Romo. They're saying he's going to replace Romo because Romo is falling apart. Do you honestly not see this?
He had a surgically repaired back going into this season and suffered a major injury before it even started. He broke his collar bone twice last year. He can't stay healthy, bdog. It's the truth, whether you like it or not.

You clearly don't live near cowboys fans. They have absolutely insane expectations for prescott after the preseason.

[Da Gyps]

It must be pretty awful living near Cowboys fans.

[The Cheat]

Everyone all over ESPN is jerking off talking about carson wentz and how good he was today.

He played the Browns.














The Browns....

[Hugh]

Exactly, TC. The Browns might not win a game this season.

[Sanosuke]

Pretty sure the Browns will win a few games.

Also Colts / Lions was the best game so far. Crazy game. Loved seeing how overly hyped Matt Stafford was

[Hugh]

The Browns suck and that's the point.

[bdog1321]

Good enough to win and hold Dallas to 19.

That's a very different point than you attempted to make before.

Lol no Hugh

[Demicos]

The Browns suck and that's the point.

200:1 odds to win the Super Bowl.

[Hugh]

Lol no Hugh

No what? If you're going to laugh in the face of logic and reason then go all the way. Explain yourself.

[Da Gyps]

Could have just as well lost with Romo is my point. You were acting like Romo = automatic win, but what has Romo ever really won in this league? Not much really.

And yeah cheat is right. It's just one game, time will tell with Carson Wentz. Eagles fans are lol right now, but it's to be expected. They thought Nick Foles was the savior soooo yeah.

[Mantis]

The Browns suck, but their defense is usually pretty decent and they'll definitely win a few games. Wentz had a good game, but it's one game. Let's see how consistent he can be before sucking him off.

[Hulky]

Raiders won opening day.

and an away early game.

been a while and I gotta say it feels insanely good

[Sanosuke]

It's less of Romo's inability to stay healthy than the hard ass tackles he takes. It's like Murph's law with him. Romo played with a punctured lung ffs. Romo will most likely play another two years, which I think he should. Any other injury isn't gonna make him worse off than he already is after various back and collar injuries. I would like Romo to win a SB before he calls it quits just because the guy never gets his due respect as one of the top QBs in the league.

[Hugh]

Not sure why you say no other injury is going to make him worse off. It's his back.
Romo had a ruptured disk in his lower spine in 2013 and had surgery to repair it. In 2014 he had 2 fractures in his lower spine. Now he has a compression fracture in his spine.
His back is fucked up, dude. He should quit before he fucks himself up permanently, if he hasn't already.

[Sanosuke]

Only quitters quit.

Also, 20 carries for 51 yards behind a god tier offensive line is woof.

[Hugh]

Only quitters quit.

That's it?
I guess it's more then bdog could come up with.

[Sanosuke]

If Romo wants to continue risking his health he is more than welcome to. I worry for Romo but I'm not gonna tell that man how to live his life just like I'm not gonna talk shit about Kaep for kneeling or tell him to cut that silly ass afro.

[bludhoundz]

Terrance Williams is terrible lol

Giants defense wasn't as bad as bdog said. They only gave up 1 TD even if they still sucked on 3rd down. There are still issues with the linebackers / safeties which is why Witten and Beasley had nice days over the middle, but now they can stuff the run better and their corners are pretty solid. The run game isn't actually that great though, Dallas' defense is just trash.

Just happy to walk away with a win in a game we would have lost the past few years.

[Maverik]

Only quitters quit.

Also, 20 carries for 51 yards behind a god tier offensive line is woof.

so happy to watch him struggle like that

don't know how he got so much hype, he's not very good

[Maverik]

also, won $81 for my Draft Kings this weekend

if I had swapped out a couple players that I was considering, could have been a bit higher

the guy who was in first had Brees/Cook/Snead, haha

he went all in there

[bludhoundz]

I don't know how good Zeke is but I think the hype was more about "featured, young, Dallas RB not named Darren McFadden running behind 5 o linemen who could almost play linebacker"

I think the issues in the run game stemmed from 2 things:
1. Giants' spending spree showed on the defensive line, at least in run stuffing
2. They didn't respect the pass as much because it was Dak, so the focus was stopping the run

[Maverik]

more importantly, someone help me do my Draft Kings next week so we can win some $$$

[Greendaybum5]

Wentz had a fantastic debut why's everyone hating on him? Yea it was one game, but for a guy who played essentially minor league college ball and only one small piece of one preseason game he had a great game. He audibled when needed, made great throws and didn't have any turnovers. I understand it's the Browns, but he played like a pro. Talk to any Eagles fan and they'll tell you they understand it was vs the Browns, but finally gives us something to look forward to after nothing of note since McNabb.

If you want to see stupid comments see every Cowboys fan all over Prescott's nuts.

[bdog1321]

No what? If you're going to laugh in the face of logic and reason then go all the way. Explain yourself.

I don't know why you want him to be done so badly. It's already been explained by both myself here and medical professionals elsewhere that his back should be fine and healed to as strong as any other player's after the time period. He just has to be more careful of putting himself in those awkward hit situations.

[Burnout278]

He has played long enough where he should know what those situations are. Yet he still places himself in those situations. I think it is more that we don't want to see him die on the field. Which looks like a strong possibility

[Da Gyps]

Wentz had a fantastic debut why's everyone hating on him? Yea it was one game, but for a guy who played essentially minor league college ball and only one small piece of one preseason game he had a great game. He audibled when needed, made great throws and didn't have any turnovers. I understand it's the Browns, but he played like a pro. Talk to any Eagles fan and they'll tell you they understand it was vs the Browns, but finally gives us something to look forward to after nothing of note since McNabb.

If you want to see stupid comments see every Cowboys fan all over Prescott's nuts.

Wentz looked fine, I think we were all just saying, let's wait and see on him until there is more evidence.

Going to have to disagree with the text I emphasized in your post though. You are being reasonable here, but every fan base has tons of idiots and the Eagles are no exception with what I've seen over the years.

[Mantis]

Only quitters quit.

Also, 20 carries for 51 yards behind a god tier offensive line is woof.

Yup. Zeke is definitely a bust. Confirmed.

/s

[Burnout278]

Biggest nfl draft bust from this class, call it now!

Going with the safe pick Jared Goff

[Da Gyps]

You stole my pick Burny.

[Burnout278]

You stole my pick Burny.

It's a pretty safe pick. I would give him 4 years to fizzle out.

[Hulky]

Joey Bosa I guess, but he's wicked good. Just betting the Chargers mess his career up pretty good.

[Mantis]

Could the Steelers be any luckier? Jesus fucking Christ both touchdowns were a joke. I feel like I'm watching last year's wild card game all over again. :mad:

[Da Gyps]

Which do you hate more, Steelers or UM?

[Mantis]

Which do you hate more, Steelers or UM?

That's legitimately the hardest question anyone has ever asked me. I don't even know how to respond.

[Burnout278]

That's legitimately the hardest question anyone has ever asked me. I don't even know how to respond.

I think you would answer with either U of M or Steelers, but what do I know?

[Lex]

That's legitimately the hardest question anyone has ever asked me. I don't even know how to respond.

Pick the Steelers, their franchise routinely dumps on yours. OSU is a little better than Michigan historically.

[Sanosuke]

This redskins defense is straight trash.

[Mantis]

Pick the Steelers, their franchise routinely dumps on yours. OSU is a little better than Michigan historically.

Steelers only beat us when it matters.. by cheating. I guess if I had to choose though it would be them. I've hated them for longer.

[Hugh]

Case Keenum is shit tier.

[Sanosuke]

Came here to post exactly that Hugh. He's so god awful. Like jesus christ.

[Hugh]

It's fucking brutal.

[Sanosuke]

I can't believe he's getting paid for this.

I can't believe he's a team captain.

I can't believe Gurley isn't playing QB and RB at this point.

[Sanosuke]

How the fuck do you get shutout by the 49ers?

[Sanosuke]

How the fuck do you lose to Blaine Gabbert?

[Hugh]

I can't imagine how bad Goff must be.
He's not even good enough to suit up and this is their starting QB?!
Caramel covered Christ!

[Hugh]

The Niners looked good. Keenum was awful but Gurly and that defensive line are excellent, and the Niners stopped both. Gurly didn't get shit and the Rams didn't sack Gabbert once. Couldn't believe that.
Gabbert looked pretty good too. I didn't get a chance to watch him much last year but I can see why he won the job.

[The One]

NINERS!!!!

In Chip Kelly We Trust.

[Sanosuke]

The Niners looked good. Keenum was awful but Gurly and that defensive line are excellent, and the Niners stopped both. Gurly didn't get shit and the Rams didn't sack Gabbert once. Couldn't believe that.
Gabbert looked pretty good too. I didn't get a chance to watch him much last year but I can see why he won the job.


Gurley didn't get anything going because they were stacking 8 in the box almost every play and didn't even bother disguising it.

[Hugh]

Gurley didn't get anything going because they were stacking 8 in the box almost every play and didn't even bother disguising it.

Of course. That's the game plan every team they play is going to have until they put someone under center halfway respectable. It's the game plan a lot of teams had last season.

[Da Gyps]

The Niners looked good. Keenum was awful but Gurly and that defensive line are excellent, and the Niners stopped both. Gurly didn't get shit and the Rams didn't sack Gabbert once. Couldn't believe that.
Gabbert looked pretty good too. I didn't get a chance to watch him much last year but I can see why he won the job.

Well it is A LOT easier when a team is one dimensional but yeah.

Both QBs in that game sucked shit. Well, Keenum was worse, by a lot, but Gabbert was still not very good. If he ever puts up big numbers I'd be shocked.

[Da Gyps]

Gabbert's main problem has been happy feet/not trusting his blockers and a shitty arm and decision making. Basically a very minus version of Alex Smith.

[Hugh]

Well it is A LOT easier when a team is one dimensional but yeah.

Both QBs in that game sucked shit. Well, Keenum was worse, by a lot, but Gabbert was still not very good. If he ever puts up big numbers I'd be shocked.

Gabbert didn't suck shit. He didn't light the world on fire, but he didn't suck. He escaped pressure very well, ran for some key first downs and made some good throws when it mattered. He also didn't turn it over and didn't take a single sack. He was decent.
Keenum sucked a shit popsicle.

[The Butcher]

NINERS!!!!

In Chip Kelly We Trust.

lol....

[Greendaybum5]

NINERS!!!!

In Chip Kelly We Trust.

oh god, as an Eagles fan this just made my day

[Da Gyps]

Gabbert didn't suck shit. He didn't light the world on fire, but he didn't suck. He escaped pressure very well, ran for some key first downs and made some good throws when it mattered. He also didn't turn it over and didn't take a single sack. He was decent.
Keenum sucked a shit popsicle.

Yeah minus version of Alex. I'll be interested to see if he can keep it up for a full season (though honestly I probably won't watch many more Niners games).


lol....


oh god, as an Eagles fan this just made my day

I was wondering when you two would see that post. LOL.

[The Butcher]

oh god, as an Eagles fan this just made my day

I'm also a Ducks fan and I'm laughing my ass off..

[Hugh]

A Ducks fan?!?!
I just died a little, Butch.

[Mantis]

17 carries for 47 yards.

Woof ;)

[bludhoundz]

missed the TNF pick in pickem and still won the week

i was gonna pick the broncos too

think im ready to steal the pickem league this year

[Darkness]

Not sure who Pyriphlegethon is, but could that person try opening the group? I can't join since the group settings only allow people to join before the first game was played (last Thursday).

In other news, my fantasy team @ work smashed this week. Brees, Cooks, Green, and Minnesota D all went crazy for me (10 person draft). Hoping they continue to score 25+ each...

[Sanosuke]

17 carries for 47 yards.

Woof ;)

Different situations imo but I agree. Woof city. There was a small scenewhere the MNF crew was highlighting how many tacklers were at gurley before he got to the line of scrimmage every time. Fighting off 3-4 dudes is difficult for any RB regardless of talent. Elliot has an OLine that is specifically built for RB success. The Rams simply blow.

[Da Gyps]

Not sure who Pyriphlegethon is, but could that person try opening the group? I can't join since the group settings only allow people to join before the first game was played (last Thursday).

In other news, my fantasy team @ work smashed this week. Brees, Cooks, Green, and Minnesota D all went crazy for me (10 person draft). Hoping they continue to score 25+ each...

I went into group settings and changed it from locked to unlocked. So you should be able to join now.

[Da Gyps]

missed the TNF pick in pickem and still won the week

i was gonna pick the broncos too

think im ready to steal the pickem league this year

It was all going so well for me, then it fell apart late. I went a little Hulky this week, might backfire.

[Hugh]

How does Brandon Marshall drop that? He looked it in, had both hands on it. Jesus. Whenever I see pros drop easy ones like that I just can't believe it, and Marshall seems to do it a lot.

[Hugh]

I hope Rex Ryan gets fired before the season ends and never gets another head coaching job. The guy is a douchebag and a toolbag and a dickhead and absolutely doesn't get it.

[Da Gyps]

Sloppy jalopy.

Also I have no idea what a catch is anymore.

[Da Gyps]

Peters is self-combusting this year. FFFFFFFf

[Da Gyps]

What is a catch?

[Da Gyps]

But a miserable little pile of rule book pages.

[Demicos]

Browns, please....

[KBHoleN1]

Jason Garrett is a professional momentum annihilator. Did we just drive the length of the field and score a TD to retake the lead? Are there 20 minutes left in a low-ish scoring game (20-17)? Does the Redskins special teams look prepared for an onside kick attempt? Let's try one anyway and not even get the ball 10 yards. Redskins kick a field goal, then force a fumble that leads to a field goal, then force the first 3-and-out of the game. Fantastic decision-making from JG. Sometimes being unpredictable is just being stupid because you're bored with winning football.

[Da Gyps]

Not that impressed with Osweiler. #bdogpost

Oh and about earlier, the non-catch calls actually both favoured the Chiefs. Both were shitty calls though imo.

[Da Gyps]

Jason Garrett is a professional momentum annihilator. Did we just drive the length of the field and score a TD to retake the lead? Are there 20 minutes left in a low-ish scoring game (20-17)? Does the Redskins special teams look prepared for an onside kick attempt? Let's try one anyway and not even get the ball 10 yards. Redskins kick a field goal, then force a fumble that leads to a field goal, then force the first 3-and-out of the game. Fantastic decision-making from JG. Sometimes being unpredictable is just being stupid because you're bored with winning football.

Whoa wut....

[Da Gyps]

#wrproblems

[Demicos]

Browns, please....
x

[Mantis]

Refs fuck us over in every aspect of the game once again to hand the Steelers a win. Same story, different season. Tomlin must suck some seriously good dick to consistently have one-sided officiating go his way every year.

[Gryph]

Refs fuck us over in every aspect of the game once again to hand the Steelers a win. Same story, different season. Tomlin must suck some seriously good dick to consistently have one-sided officiating go his way every year.

lmao

I saw you made the last post AND INSTANTLY knew exactly what was typed before I even clicked this thread.

[Da Gyps]

lmao

I saw you made the last post AND INSTANTLY knew exactly what was typed before I even clicked this thread.

^

Couldn't be that the Steeler are better than the Bengals. :p

[Sanosuke]

"These are the strides from Jameis Winston we wanted to see."

"Jameis Winston is finally looking like a premier quarterback in the league."

"This is just the start to a breakout year for Winston."

Week 1 comments. Can't wait for Week 2's.

[Da Gyps]

Week one is overreaction week. I think I took the Jags in pick em lmao.

[Mantis]

lmao

I saw you made the last post AND INSTANTLY knew exactly what was typed before I even clicked this thread.

And there's clearly a reason you knew...

[KBHoleN1]

Yeah, because you always blame the officials when you lose.

[bludhoundz]

always

ps jeff fisher is so bad how does he still have a job lol

[Da Gyps]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2VJp-bEQlHk/V6EzgqqBE8I/AAAAAAAAIbs/8K_GpE5PhjY81a7YkAYYc0hyNyfnia-QgCLcB/s1600/346phistophilus.jpg

[Da Gyps]

So I know Denver's defense is good (duh) but Andrew Luck.....wooooooooof

[Hugh]

Seahawks are fucking ridiculous. We go full retard every time we play the Rams. Our offense goes entire quarters without passing. Jimmy Graham is a non factor, a complete waste of talent and money. We should beat them my 20 points.
Whatever. It's fucking stupid.

[bludhoundz]

predicted the rams would win that one. seattle always seems to play down to their level one game per year and lose a game that has a score of like 15 points.

they'll bounce back, but they need to stop forcing the ball to rawls. he didn't look explosive at all to me and i think michael looked much better. he really should be seeing the majority of the workload in the next game.

[Mantis]

Yeah, because you always blame the officials when you lose.

That's just blatantly false. You can't blame the refs when they don't blow the game. All games are going to have an occasional bad call. It's to be expected. It's the consistent one-sided officiating like I saw today that deserves and will get a response from me. I don't know if the NFL goes back and watches games to check officiating, but if they do, those refs will have consequences for sure. Go watch the whole game before you say something stupid because I can tell you didn't watch it.

[IROK]

So I know Denver's defense is good (duh) but Andrew Luck.....wooooooooof

Last year, Denver was the team nobody wanted to acknowledge for the longest time because Peyton was shit. As soon as he leaves people start questioning how Denver will be without him. But really, it's the same team as last year. Good defense, good enough ground game, and as long as the offense doesn't put the team in a position to lose, they'll be in the game for the full 60 minutes. I think it's just such an old ideology in this current age of offensive juggernauts and the game being so QB-centric that nobody wants to acknowledge it until it's too late. At least this year they have the backings of a Super Bowl victory so they at least get some respect. Thing I love most about this Broncos team is they should always be in a position to win the game. Both games were very enjoyable to watch, and I love what I see from the team overall.

[Da Gyps]

I hate Elway but he is smart af. And yeah odds are whoever is out there (Siemien or Lynch) will honestly be better than Peyton was last year.

[bludhoundz]

I really hate how NFL coaches have this idea that they wanna rest their running backs after a big run. This is the dumbest part of running back by committee situations. The coach falls in love with the idea of the committee - always having fresh legs - but forgets that you need a guy to get into a groove. I get it if the guy is totally winded but if he's playing well why are you swapping him for another guy? It makes no sense to me. Ryan Mathews broke off a 35 yarder, looked fine, and then we see Sproles in for most of the rest of that series, including a goal line carry on 4th down. He's a tiny man and he's your goal line option? Jesus man, what is Doug Pederson smoking??? That 4th down penalty gave him a chance to right his wrong and he finally got it

[KBHoleN1]

I agree with your assessment.

In other news, the Bears a) suck and b) have half their team riding an injury cart.

[Hugh]

I think you're right, too, blud. I also kind of hate seeing first and second year backs break off one decent run and then motion to the sideline that they need to come out. I see it constantly. It's like dude, that was your first good run all game and only your second consecutive play. You need a Gatorade already?

[Greendaybum5]

Sorry Pittsburgh fans - things aren't looking good for Big Ben.... Week 1 Eagles knock out RGIII. Week 2 Eagles knock out Cutler....

Well it's been a fun 1st two weeks for us Eagles fans. Happy Johnson is appealing the 10 game suspension since I'm going to this Sunday's game. I still can't see the Eagles winning more than 6 or if a bounce goes the right way 7 games.

[Da Gyps]

Think big bro. SUPER BOWL!!!!!

[The Butcher]

I like that Wentz kid.

[Greendaybum5]

I like that Wentz kid.

this - just wish he'd take sliding lessons from someone

[Lex]

Is this the part where we get overly optimistic about rookies? Sterling Shepard is literally Jerry Rice

[bludhoundz]

He was great, our WRs are awesome.

Wentz looks good. A lil worried that along with Prescott the NFC East qbs are improving and could be a problem in the future. I still think Cousins is not good though.

Eli has a few more years so we are in win now mode. I think we finally have the pieces to make a run at it. Might need one more year for everyone to settle in, including the coach, but I think we have a shot.

[The Butcher]

Is this the part where we get overly optimistic about rookies? Sterling Shepard is literally Jerry Rice

"overly optimistic" lololololol

What's next? "trusting women"?

[Sanosuke]

Wentz is the most average QB I've ever seen, next to Andy Dalton. The upside to being Andy Dalton is that he has AJ Green.

[Greendaybum5]

Wentz is the most average QB I've ever seen, next to Andy Dalton. The upside to being Andy Dalton is that he has AJ Green.

why average? If he had an AJ Green I'd be the happiest person on these forums.

[bludhoundz]

Wentz looked good to me. But he wasn't having consistent success until about 5 bears starters got hurt and I don't consider their defense that good to begin with. The matchup with Pittsburgh is his first real test

[Greendaybum5]

Wentz looked good to me. But he wasn't having consistent success until about 5 bears starters got hurt and I don't consider their defense that good to begin with. The matchup with Pittsburgh is his first real test

wasn't having consistent success? I believe started the game like 6 for 6 or something like that. Empty backfield on the first drive... I can't think of a rookie QB that's done that before. His numbers would've been much better if Matthews didn't drop an easy 35 yd TD catch

[bludhoundz]

Key word is consistent

He had the one nice drive in the beginning. All their other drives stalled until the bears players got hurt. Matthews did drop that easy TD though

[Sanosuke]

wasn't having consistent success? I believe started the game like 6 for 6 or something like that. Empty backfield on the first drive... I can't think of a rookie QB that's done that before. His numbers would've been much better if Matthews didn't drop an easy 35 yd TD catch

Lmao. Take the blinders off for like five seconds. Recent successful QBs that are much more talented than Wentz will ever be:

David Carr
Andrew Luck
Cam Newton
RG3 - pre ACL destruction
Jimmy G. (I chalk this three start stint up as his rookie season since he wasn't getting any playing time whatsoever behind Brady)

Just because the kid throws 6 for 6 (which I didn't watch the game entirely) doesn't mean he's a world beater. Wentz is average in the fact that he will never be the reason by himself the Eagles win games. If you swapped Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Carson Wentz or Ryan Tannehill between any of their teams you'd get the same results from all of them depending on the weapons they have on their team.

[Mantis]

Just picked the Eagles over the Cheaters. Let's go Wentz! All aboard the hype train!

[bdog1321]

I mean Wentz has made his supporting cast look wayyyyy better than Bradford or Sanchez or anyone ever did. Agholor and Matthews looked like passable receivers for the first time in recent memory. So the kid can definitely play, but just how much of a baller he is i'll reserve judgement on until he consistently performs well against good defenses and comes up in the clutch. At this point he hasn't even faced as much adversity as dakky.

[Hulky]

Browns might be the worst team all time real soon. Lost RG3, lost McCown, lost their 1st round WR Coleman.

Like wtf is the offense now? The best weapons are like a former QB playing WR for the first time and an eh RB.

[The Cheat]

They still win win 2-3 games. 4 at most.

[Hulky]

I really don't think so I think it's legit 0-16 team.

QB: Kody Kessler
RB: Isaiah Crowell
WR: Terrell Pyror
WR: Andrew Hawkins
TE: Gary Barnidge

Can that legit score in the NFL? It's not like they have some defense that some FGs can win them a game. Maybe they sneak a win or two in with Josh Gordon, but holy shit this team blows as is.

[Hugh]

I agree. I said they might go winless after week 1 and things are a lot worse now.

[Sanosuke]

I really don't think so I think it's legit 0-16 team.

QB: Kody Kessler
RB: Isaiah Crowell
WR: Terrell Pyror
WR: Andrew Hawkins
TE: Gary Barnidge

Can that legit score in the NFL? It's not like they have some defense that some FGs can win them a game. Maybe they sneak a win or two in with Josh Gordon, but holy shit this team blows as is.

Josh Gordon isn't gonna play. Dude is gonna get locked up again from what it looks like. :/

[bdog1321]

Josh Gordon isn't gonna play. Dude is gonna get locked up again from what it looks like. :/

http://fox8.com/2016/09/21/arrest-warrant-for-cleveland-browns-josh-gordon-rescinded/

[Greendaybum5]

yea whatchu smoking sano

[Hulky]

I can't remember if we are talking about Daily leagues here or the other thread, but here's my lineups for this week:


Pos Player FPPG
QB Blake Bortles 21.8 swap out
RB Theo Riddick 19.2 swap out
RB Charles Sims 9.5 swap out
WR Antonio Brown 21.8 swap out
WR Amari Cooper 18.4 swap out
WR T.Y. Hilton 11.0 swap out
TE Jordan Cameron 9.3 swap out
FLEX Derrick Henry 6.2 swap out
DST Dolphins 8.0 swap out

Pos Player FPPG
QB Marcus Mariota 18.2 swap out
RB Melvin Gordon 20.9 swap out
RB Jerick McKinnon 1.5 swap out
WR O. Beckham Jr. 14.0 swap out
WR Antonio Brown 21.8 swap out
WR Tajae Sharpe 11.0 swap out
TE Delanie Walker Q 13.8 swap out
FLEX C. Artis-Payne 0.0 swap out
DST Dolphins 8.0 swap out

Pos Player FPPG
QB Marcus Mariota 18.2 swap out
RB Ezekiel Elliott 14.0 swap out
RB Melvin Gordon 20.9 swap out
WR Travis Benjamin 21.3 swap out
WR Marvin Jones Jr. 17.7 swap out
WR Sterling Shepard 18.0 swap out
TE Dwayne Allen 10.9 swap out
FLEX David Johnson 20.3 swap out
DST Dolphins 8.0 swap out

[Sanosuke]

3rd lineup is best imo

[Greendaybum5]

Hulky - just my 2 cents. I'd try to fit Pitta into one if you could, also stunned you don't have Landry/Parker in any of yours.

Of your 3 lineups the 3rd is the only one I'd play in a money league haha

[Hulky]

Hulky - just my 2 cents. I'd try to fit Pitta into one if you could, also stunned you don't have Landry/Parker in any of yours.

Of your 3 lineups the 3rd is the only one I'd play in a money league haha

Jordan Cameron is the only TE I picked that I was like "eh fuck it". I looked at Pitta though, but not really feeling it since last week was kinda an outta nowhere and I think they scheme him after that so he falls to normal. Delanie Walker is an easy TE1 playing Oakland since the Raiders haven't stopped a single TE for over a year, just as long as he is healthy.

Basically I want to hop on the dailies this week since Miami v. Browns is probably the easiest elimination of a position for the entire year. I expect Miami DST to be the most started player I've ever seen in dailies, but yolo.

[The Cheat]

Still think Browns win at least 2.

[Da Gyps]

Belicheck is a master.

[Maverik]

he's a fucking Warlock man

unreal

[The One]

Lol. Texans getting embarrassed by a 3rd string QB. Jesus. I can't imagine how good they will be with Brady back.

[Da Gyps]

he's a fucking Warlock man

unreal

I can't believe I took the Texans in pick em. I must repent. Never doubting Hoody again.

[Burnout278]

I kind of wish we had a Texans fan here to rub that in to. Shit that looked bad

[Hugh]

The Texans suck.
That's the worst fucking name in the history of sports, too, by the way. Used to be the Oilers. That's cool.
A Texan is just a person from Texas. How long did it take them to come up with that shit?

[Mantis]

Fucking Pats. Was so close to picking them but I saw that most people picked Texans so I thought maybe there was something I didn't know haha.

You would think that I out of all people should know what 3rd string QBs are capable of. ;)

[Da Gyps]

The Texans suck.
That's the worst fucking name in the history of sports, too, by the way. Used to be the Oilers. That's cool.
A Texan is just a person from Texas. How long did it take them to come up with that shit?

For real Hugh.

[Maverik]

they're from Texas, they're simple folk

[The Cheat]

they're from Texas, they're simple folk

It is funny for it is true.

[Mantis]

It's already fucking starting again. These fucking refs... jesus fuck.

[Mantis]

Literally every single point the Broncos have was fucking given to them by these refs. Unbelievable.

[Da Gyps]

I've been watching this game and I hate the Broncos (and would love to see a Cincy win) but come on dude. Maybe the Bengals D should....oh I don't know, not commit blatant penalties? That would be a good start. The fumble call was bang bang and I think it can't really be overturned either way.

[Mantis]

His knee was down, the Bronco's "catch" that continued their drive on 3rd down was not a catch as it clearly hit the ground (even the announcers couldn't believe it, but then again they couldn't believe the calls last week at Pitt either). Every third down that we stopped them there was a bullshit penalty. On their first drive they called roughing the passer on a clean hit that happened immediately after he released the ball. Then there was another situation where they were going to punt that they called a defensive penalty, replay showed literally nothing wrong. That's five things right off the top of my head that happened in critical situations that either continued their drives on what should have been a punt or gave them the ball when it should have been ours.

One or two missed calls in a game are understandable. At least FIVE awful calls in crucial situations in one HALF all going against one team? Inexcusable. I'm starting to think more and more that the NFL is rigged. Thank God for college football.

Also, a preemptive "fuck you" to KB for when he posts about how the refs aren't making an impact or whatever dumb thing he'll say.

[Da Gyps]

Idk I thought it was a fumble. Refs have been pretty fair. If you are talking about the personal foul after the false start that's because the play was dead......

[Mantis]

Idk I thought it was a fumble. Refs have been pretty fair. If you are talking about the personal foul after the false start that's because the play was dead......

The play was allegedly dead and yet everyone was acting like it wasn't on both sides of the ball. I know I never heard a whistle or saw a flag. So far the second half hasn't been badly officiated aside from one call. Damage has already been done though when you give them 16 points in the first half.

[bdog1321]

haha fuck the panthers

[bdog1321]

on a side note, i and everyone else should be afraid of the vikings at this point

[Hulky]

bunch of unexpected stuff so far

edit: I thought Browns were losing that, so the missed FG is expected I guess. 3 missed FGs so far lolz.

[Hugh]

on a side note, i and everyone else should be afraid of the vikings at this point

I agree. I'm stunned they're 3-0. I didn't expect them to beat Green Bay and Carolina even with Bridgewater and AP.

[Da Gyps]

Burnout probably can't believe it either.

[Mantis]

I can't believe the Broncos are undefeated. Maybe they had a bad game today, but they did not impress me at all. They legitimately might have scored 0 points in the first half if it weren't for the refs bailing them out and our defense dropping multiple interceptions that were thrown right to them. In the second half, it was just us self-imploding at the very end of the game, giving up big plays despite the fact that we had tight coverage. I don't know, I'm just not seeing anything that great.

Go Eagles!

[Hugh]

I saw Odell Beckham crying on the sideline after the Giants lost. 3rd game of the year, the Giants are 2-1, and he's literally weeping on camera.
What the fuck is wrong with that guy?

[Hulky]

I saw Odell Beckham crying on the sideline after the Giants lost. 3rd game of the year, the Giants are 2-1, and he's literally weeping on camera.
What the fuck is wrong with that guy?

He got bested by Josh Norman who he had a feud with last year? (just assuming I didn't watch that game)

[Da Gyps]

I can't believe the Broncos are undefeated. Maybe they had a bad game today, but they did not impress me at all. They legitimately might have scored 0 points in the first half if it weren't for the refs bailing them out and our defense dropping multiple interceptions that were thrown right to them. In the second half, it was just us self-imploding at the very end of the game, giving up big plays despite the fact that we had tight coverage. I don't know, I'm just not seeing anything that great.

Go Eagles!

Denver gonna Denver. Chiefs couldashouldawoulda beat their asses twice last year. I'm still salty about the sb. It sucks, but w/e.

Carson Manning-Wentz. ALL ABOARD THE EAGLES HYPE TRAIN.

[Hugh]

Nothing quite like playing the Niners to get right. :)

[Hugh]

So how about Wentz and the Eagles?

[Da Gyps]

lololololololololololololololololololol RIP Gryph

[Hulky]

So how about Wentz and the Eagles?

W. Smallwood 8 44 1 14
K. Barner 7 43 1 14
C. Wentz 1 10 0 10
D. Sproles 2 -1 0 0
R. Mathews 2 -5 0 -2
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
D. Sproles 6 128 1 73T

such a weird game stats wise like rushing leaders is like reverse order of what I'd assume and Sproles is the leading receiver (watching the end of the Seahawks kill the 49ers)

[Mantis]

Just picked the Eagles over the Cheaters. Let's go Wentz! All aboard the hype train!

:)

[The Cheat]

Dear Carson Palmer and your boy Larry F,

Way to fuck me over today. Also Fuck you buffalo for somehow doing that.

Fuck mantis just because...I guess.

[Hulky]

The dude currently winning $1,000,000 on draft kings' lineup is fucking insane
Stafford - 30.5
DJohnson - 26.1
DMurray - 29.5
MarvJones - 41.5
JarLandry - 29.6
ARobinson - 24.7
HunterHenry - 7.6
Pryor - 34.9
Rams - 13

237.40 Points

basically tells me fuck playing draft kings, because someone's crazy ass lineup will be insane

[Da Gyps]

i cant even.sws.w....

Gryph...this isn't even fair. Fitzpatrick is broken

[Mantis]

The dude currently winning $1,000,000 on draft kings' lineup is fucking insane
Stafford - 30.5
DJohnson - 26.1
DMurray - 29.5
MarvJones - 41.5
JarLandry - 29.6
ARobinson - 24.7
HunterHenry - 7.6
Pryor - 34.9
Rams - 13

237.40 Points

basically tells me fuck playing draft kings, because someone's crazy ass lineup will be insane

Glad we didn't re-sign Marvin Jones... /s

[Da Gyps]

If only that guy also had Chiefs D (if possible, idk if it would be).

[Hugh]

That shot on Beasley, holy shit. It's like he got hit by a car.
It also looked like Dez Bryant almost broke his leg. Pretty rough stuff early on.

[KBHoleN1]

Jason Garrett is a fucking moron. I'm so tired of having him as a head coach. 5 minutes into the game and he thinks challenging that play is worth it. Not even close to breaking the plane, Witten's foot is out of bounds way before he gets close to the pylon, and you're about to have 1st and goal from inside the 1. Now you're down one timeout and you lost a challenge. 55 minutes left in the game. Wtf?

[Da Gyps]

I literally turned on my computer to see if you posted about that stupid shit KB. Not disappointed. What an idiotic decision by Garrett.

[Hugh]

Yes, that was a retarded challenge. Makes sense, since Garrett is a retard.

[KBHoleN1]

Some people play every game like it's their last. Garrett coaches every game like it's his first.

[Hugh]

Still, this game will likely get out of hand soon. There are worse backups than Hoyer but he's still a bum, and there's no way Chicago will stop Dallas. They're running all over them.

[Hugh]

Prescott is good. Really good.

[Hugh]

Jerry Jones should fire Garrett, offer Romo the head coaching job, and stick with Prescott.
I'm serious.

[KBHoleN1]

That sounds like a dream come true. Romo as head coach is something I would enjoy.

[Burnout278]

on a side note, i and everyone else should be afraid of the vikings at this point


Burnout probably can't believe it either.

I'ma just keep my mouth shut and not say anything

[bludhoundz]

I think it's time we started thinking about whether the Vikings' defense is the best in the league or not

[Greendaybum5]

I think it's time we started thinking about whether the Viking's defense is the best in the league or not

At this point they have to be. The panthers avg'd 40 points in their last 7 home games and they just poo'd on them. Also that win over GB...at least the conditional pick in the Bradford trade gets bumped from a 4 to a 3 haha. Can't wait for them to come to Philly.

Everyone is going to go crazy after the Eagles thrashing yesterday, but now we have to wait about 8 days to find out the results of the Lane Johnson appeal. Going to assume it's a guaranteed 10 game suspension which means he's not back until week 16. I'm incredibly nervous about Wentz's health with him out. Eagles need to take an OL with this Vikings pick in the draft. Wentz has been beyond what anyone could've expected. What a fun time for Eagles fans and football fans in general. Still don't see them better than 8-8 or even 7-9 without Johnson though...Who knows maybe we'll get some nice surprises.

[Hugh]

A right tackle who hasn't made a Pro Bowl can't be that important. It sucks losing any starting lineman, especially with a rookie QB, but Wentz has already shown incredible pocket awareness and poise.
Eagles are 3-0. The season doesn't depend on whether or not Lane Johnson gets suspended.

[The Butcher]

Wentz made some throws that really tickled my boner yesterday.

[Greendaybum5]

A right tackle who hasn't made a Pro Bowl can't be that important. It sucks losing any starting lineman, especially with a rookie QB, but Wentz has already shown incredible pocket awareness and poise.
Eagles are 3-0. The season doesn't depend on whether or not Lane Johnson gets suspended.

I don't care how many pro bowls someone's made or hasn't made. He's a one of the top RT in the league. You're going to shift Barbre to RT from LG (where for the first time in his career he's playing well) and it's gonna spell disaster. The only good news is the next two games are vs the Lions and redskins. But 4 of the next 5 games are on the road and 3 of them are division games. Then we head to Seattle and have GB I forget if that's home or away, but I think I'm gonna stick with 8-8. I think they should be able to go 5-8 down the stretch.

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Wentz fan and incredibly excited for the years to come. Just have realistic expectations for how this season will go.

[bdog1321]

Prescott is good. Really good.

Romo is better

[Greendaybum5]

Shane Vereen down for the count. RB is tough this year.

[Hulky]

Do right tackles even make the probowl? Don't they just select tackles in general and everyone picks left tackes?

[Hugh]

Romo is better

You're hopeless, bdog, but don't worry. There's hope for the Cowboys.

[IROK]

I can't believe the Broncos are undefeated. Maybe they had a bad game today, but they did not impress me at all. They legitimately might have scored 0 points in the first half if it weren't for the refs bailing them out and our defense dropping multiple interceptions that were thrown right to them. In the second half, it was just us self-imploding at the very end of the game, giving up big plays despite the fact that we had tight coverage. I don't know, I'm just not seeing anything that great.

Go Eagles!

https://m.popkey.co/c21e18/a0G0k.gif

[bdog1321]

You're hopeless, bdog, but don't worry. There's hope for the Cowboys.

1 passing td in 3 games is really hope inspiring

[KBHoleN1]

1 passing td in 3 games is really hope inspiring

I hope you're not serious with this.

[bdog1321]

I hope no one is serious about actually starting the kid the rest of the year.

[Da Gyps]

Moot point anyway, Romo will come back, then die on the field within 10 minutes and back to Dak.

[Hugh]

Bdog has his head so far up Romo'a ass that he can't even see what's happening.
He'll figure it out sooner or later. Well, not sooner but eventually.

[Maverik]

Serge eventually got over his braindead RGIII fandom.

I believe bdog can overcome his.

[Sanosuke]

"Wentz is incredible."
"Prescott is really good."

TIL the NFL fans from TAO yester-year are gone and have molded into people ready to just about jump on any one's jock without them even completing a half, much less a quarter of the season yet.

I would take 2/3s of the league's current QBs over Dak Prescott and Wentz tbh.

Dak Prescott is playing just as good as Cody Kessler and Jacoby Brissett.

[Hugh]

Oh shut up, Sano. Jesus. You're the one acting like an old man yelling at kids on his lawn.
Prescott has already shown pocket presence, a quick release, accuracy, escapability. He looks like he has what it takes, and there will be a quarterback controversy in Dallas whether you like it or not.
People are talking about Wentz because the Rams traded up and took Goff and right now he's not playing while Wentz and the Eagles are 3-0 and just completely destroyed the Steelers. And Wentz does look good, by the way.
Why in the fuck wouldn't Cowboys fans, Eagles fans, you or anyone else be excited about these guys.
I always fuck with Bdog about Romo. Part of it is a joke, and part is that he really is in denial I think about Romo's health, future and also that he has something exciting in Prescott. If it bothers you so much I'll start fucking with you about him instead.
Quit being such a prick.

[Demicos]

Well...

[Da Gyps]

No one is saying they are surefire HOFers, just that they look promising so far.

[Greendaybum5]

No one is saying they are surefire HOFers, just that they look promising so far.

Cleveland did pass on Wentz.... #AutoHOF

just kidding please don't let this post jynx me

[bludhoundz]

A good start is extremely important and often plays a very large part in the rest of a player's career. Just look at Wilson vs Luck and see that the circumstance plays a huge role. (Not a knock on Wilson at all, but his poise was groomed in his first few years when it wasn't all on him, whereas Luck has been pressing since day 1). I think my point is just that these two rookie QBs have stumbled into excellent situations. Dak Prescott routinely has 5 seconds to throw the ball because of the maulers up front and the threat of the run game. I can't say I see the same type of offensive talent around Wentz, but Philly has been making QBs look excellent for a long time now. It's a good place to be for a QB.

I think if he was drafted by the Browns we would see something similar to what's happening with Luck, except he would probably have even less success.

[Mantis]

Woo I won the pickem this week thanks to my Eagles pick! Gotten 9 games every week. At least I'm consistent haha.

[Da Gyps]

RIP JJ Watt

[Sanosuke]

Oh shut up, Sano. Jesus. You're the one acting like an old man yelling at kids on his lawn.
Prescott has already shown pocket presence, a quick release, accuracy, escapability. He looks like he has what it takes, and there will be a quarterback controversy in Dallas whether you like it or not.
People are talking about Wentz because the Rams traded up and took Goff and right now he's not playing while Wentz and the Eagles are 3-0 and just completely destroyed the Steelers. And Wentz does look good, by the way.
Why in the fuck wouldn't Cowboys fans, Eagles fans, you or anyone else be excited about these guys.
I always fuck with Bdog about Romo. Part of it is a joke, and part is that he really is in denial I think about Romo's health, future and also that he has something exciting in Prescott. If it bothers you so much I'll start fucking with you about him instead.
Quit being such a prick.

I wish I could go back on the old threads and see how many of you hyped up or played down Kaepernick. I'm not being a prick, I'm stating my opinion just like you are on a player in the NFL. If it bothers you so much then I guess I'll continue to be a prick somehow.

Sans Darren Sproles destroying every ankle that belong to the Pittsburgh Steelers defense on his 73 yard scamper, Carson Wentz would have a stat line of 22/30 for 228 Yards and a TD. What a world beater.
Stat line against a solid defense that belonged to the Bears was 21/34 for 190 yards and a TD. World beater.
22/37 for 278 against an abysmal Browns team.

You guys keep blowing off Wentz and I'll maintain my skepticism of him and Prescott.

[Greendaybum5]

I wish I could go back on the old threads and see how many of you hyped up or played down Kaepernick. I'm not being a prick, I'm stating my opinion just like you are on a player in the NFL. If it bothers you so much then I guess I'll continue to be a prick somehow.

Sans Darren Sproles destroying every ankle that belong to the Pittsburgh Steelers defense on his 73 yard scamper, Carson Wentz would have a stat line of 22/30 for 228 Yards and a TD. What a world beater.
Stat line against a solid defense that belonged to the Bears was 21/34 for 190 yards and a TD. World beater.
22/37 for 278 against an abysmal Browns team.

You guys keep blowing off Wentz and I'll maintain my skepticism of him and Prescott.

Game manager. Look how he changes the plays at the line. Thank god Chip Kelly isn't here to ruin this kid. There's also the single most important stat you omitted from each game. 0 INTs. Mic drop.

[Sanosuke]

Mic drop off a 0 INT line? Lol... And you want to applaud his ability to change plays at the line? Every QB is expected to do that, and does, at the NFL level. Hell they do it in college.

I guess Brian Hoyer and Sam Bradford are amazing too for not throwing INTs. Or I guess 5+ TDs and 1 INT (4 QBs), 6-7 TDs and 2 INTs (2 QBS) aren't your cup of tea either. I'll take a 3:1 TD:INT ratio with a QB who makes the defense fear them than a game manager, especially in what is unanimously considered a passing league first.

[Greendaybum5]

Mic drop off a 0 INT line? Lol... And you want to applaud his ability to change plays at the line? Every QB is expected to do that, and does, at the NFL level. Hell they do it in college.

I guess Brian Hoyer and Sam Bradford are amazing too for not throwing INTs. Or I guess 5+ TDs and 1 INT (4 QBs), 6-7 TDs and 2 INTs (2 QBS) aren't your cup of tea either. I'll take a 3:1 TD:INT ratio with a QB who makes the defense fear them than a game manager, especially in what is unanimously considered a passing league first.

Couldn't disagree with you more. Bradford wasn't even allowed to call audibles under Chip Kelly. There's plenty of QBs who may attempt to, but don't do it well. Hoyer and Bradford have started (combined) the same amount of games as Wentz... College game is so different it's not even comparable. Hell Wentz is coming from a FCS school. Have you watched any of the Eagles games? Watch him move around the pocket. He always makes the right play.

[The Butcher]

Lol.

[Maverik]

I definitely want to go on the record as saying I always thought Kaep sucked

[Burnout278]

I definitely want to go on the record as saying I always thought Kaep sucked

Me too

[Wizzy]

idk guys KAP isn't that bad

[Sanosuke]

Couldn't disagree with you more. Bradford wasn't even allowed to call audibles under Chip Kelly. There's plenty of QBs who may attempt to, but don't do it well. Hoyer and Bradford have started (combined) the same amount of games as Wentz... College game is so different it's not even comparable. Hell Wentz is coming from a FCS school. Have you watched any of the Eagles games? Watch him move around the pocket. He always makes the right play.

You are delusional.