Mike Trout is insane. It's crazy to think the angels keep managing to miss the playoffs with this guy.
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Mike Trout is insane. It's crazy to think the angels keep managing to miss the playoffs with this guy.
Man, sorry about your M's, Hugh. That game was brutal last night. The M's were in such a shitty situation. The game probably should have been delayed because of the rain but even if they had delayed it they would have been in trouble because the bullpen is so overworked.
On Trout, is it just the Pujols contract that has that team so lacking in talent?
Not really, they really destroyed their farm system over the years. Couple that with the fact they have huge albatross contracts. I think they are still paying Josh Hamilton, theyhave CJ Wilson there still, Pujols, and if I'm not mistaken they are throwing a fuckton of money at Huston Street as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serge
It's scary, if they didn't go that route, at one point their lineup would end up being (if they called everyone up)
Jean Segura, Trout, Trumbo, Grichuk, Cron, Kalhoun, and David Carpenter at RP.
They had a lot of shit down there, and some serious talent, but iirc 2009 they made the playoffs then just started spending like crazy to keep the window open, and ended up losing out on a future.
http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-angel...aheim/payroll/
More than $26M this year for Hamilton, that's the most of any player on their payroll. Holy shit, is that right?
It's right, it's why Texas took him, they wanted him gone because he was always injured and iirc they wanted to call up Calhoun who was more productive off the bench and Pujols needed the DH as opposed to Hamilton because he had the plantar problems and Hamilton, who missed like 130 games that season with broken legs. Rangers took him basically for a bag of baseballs and Angels were on the hook for his entire insurance money / guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KBHoleN1
It's mainly the Josh Hamilton and pujols contracts but its more then that too lol. So many bad contracts and most likely still the worst farm system in baseball. They keep missing on picks too. I don't even know their #1 prospect atm and I'm a prospect guru lol (I do but hes a 45fv at most imo)
You paying attention to the legit Justin smoak breakout hugh?? Rofl
Here we go guys, Rich Hill's thrown 40 pitches in two innings and 24 have been curveballs.
Incoming DL stint within the week with blister problems again.
Inevitable.
I'm working with a guy who was scouted by the braves today so I'll ask him what he thinks.
So I asked him if he thought rich hill was a bitch.
"Rub some poly sporin on that thing and get back out there" is his direct quote. Then he said, "in all honesty, I understand where he's coming from, but if it's been a whole year he's probably a bit of a bitch"
oh man you're so right now. i take back everything i said. great validation bro. :thumbsup2:
Heh, you're big argument against mine was that I couldn't possibly understand because I didn't play at a high enough level. This guy pitched in California and was an all American and he thinks the dudes a bitch :D
I just thought it was cool to get a semi professionals opinion :p
dude got scouted and doesn't play for anyone. semi-pro is hardly applicable here. also your*Quote:
Originally Posted by Spencer 555
That also wasn't what I said at all. Maybe you just suck at reading comprehension.
Your right sano. Me stupid. /end convo
much better
A little. I'm shocked. I mean he wouldn't be the first guy to finally put it together at 30, but I'm still shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spencer 555
Ya me too, I really don't understand how you can go from having the longest swing in the mlb to what he's doing this year. He was literally one of my least favourite players of all time because of how many chances he's gotten even though he's sucked. Still don't like him tbh but at least he's playing well for my jays.
The Ms are completely fucked. 4 of their 5 starters have been on the DL for a month and that's not including Smyly, who hasn't thrown a pitch all year. The entire rotation is minor leaguers. It's a joke. Oh well. Nats are a sick team. I wasn't expecting to take any of those games with this pitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serge
There has never been a more undeservedly self-absorbed asshat than Hunter Strickland. The two things that speak loudest from the brawl are Posey not stopping Harper from charging and Strickland not letting his teammates take him off the field. He put himself before his team there.
I hope no one on our team retaliates. Really feel like the one almost clean punch Harper got in was payment enough.
Posey is a great player but he seems like kind of a wuss. No way he's going to get in Bryce Harper's way.
I LOVE that Harper charged the mound. Love it. That's the kind of shit baseball needs more of, players who will run out and retaliate against these butthurt fuckers who are throwing at guys intentionally.
There's some obvious bad blood between both players. Bryce Harper is an ego-maniac though. That helmet toss was weak.
Wasn't weak at all, looked like it took a lot in him not to throw the helmet directly at Strickland. He very clearly didn't throw it in anyone's direction, don't know why anyone's questioning that at all.
Bryce deserves a suspension for this, but the media is spinning this like Bryce is the bad guy already, which is fucking stupid.
Absolutely loved that Bryce charged that stupid bitch and actually tried to do something about being thrown at. That was the first and only brawl in baseball I've seen live that wasn't just a bunch of guys standing around.
Is Rizzo having more votes than Ryan Zimmerman the worst discrepancy in ASG voting history?
Maybe. It's up there for sure. Fan voting is a shit show.
Probably because that discrepancy is all the butthurt fantasy players who wondered where the fuck he's been for the past 4 years and decided to go with Rizzo instead.
AL:
C: Brian McCann
1b: Justin Smoak (.....try to debate it......)
2b: Jose Altuve
3b: Miguel Sano
SS: Carlos Correa
OF: Betts - Trout - Judge
DH - Corey Dickerson
NL
C: Buster Posey
1B: Joey Votto
2b: Daniel Murphy
3b: Nolan Arenado
SS: Zack Cozart
OF: Hamilton - Harper - Blackmon
My ballot so far. Toughest votes were arenado over Jake Lamb, Hamilton over Scott Schebler and Correa over Lindor
Oh just realised I can write in conforto. Done. Over Hamilton.
You're right, Spencer. The only person I can even make an argument for AL 1b against Smoak is Logan Morrison.
I actually can't believe I just typed that sentence...
I'll be back tomorrow. It's going to take me all day to process this.
Right!?!? I'm floored.
Hamilton has had an amazing start to the season thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Spencer 555
Ya Hamilton's been awesome. If I was starting a team, he might be in my top 10 position players. There's still some upside in his bat imo.
Aaron Judge is a god damn fucking beast. Dude might just hit 45+ homers this season.
I'm guessing 37
Pineda looks injured atm
The Giants rookie Blanch (sp?) just had a complete game shut out which is pretty cool
Alright im bored. Just wanted to post some of my perhaps controversial opinions about some things in the game today.
1. Bunting
More or less a dead art. In the age of big data, people started realising that the bunting strategy was being massively overused by dumbass managers (like Tony la russa). Over the years we have seen players bunt less and less because it is a situational strategy that usually ends in a net negative outcome. I told veil if I ever coached a team of little leaguers, I would tell them that bunting is horse shit and they should learn how to hit doubles and homers if they wanna make it to the big leagues and he told me that I was stupid because I'd need to teach them baseball fundamentals. Baseball fundamentals = do not bunt... In my books :).
2. Shifting
Much like bunting, shifting has become a situational strategy in baseball. Unlike bunting, we are seeing more and more defensive shifts because it tends to end in a net positive outcome. Analytics and statistical scouting reports have lead big league pitchers and defenders to study and develop a general gameplan for each individual player and shifting has become popularized because it works. Beating a shift is not as simple as simply hitting the ball the other way as much as some traditionalist will have you believe.
3. Managers
My opinion about baseball managers is that they are more or less useless and the best mlb managers are more hands off then others. Guys like Tony la Russa and old school managers like that who are all heralded for their chess like baseball strategies are most likely overrated, paranoid and delusional (I hate them). In game managing is a very basic art that anyone could do well. In game coaching (pitching coach walking out to the mound is to stall for the bullpen) is not a real thing. Motivational coach speeches aren't a real thing.
4. Saves
The save stat should be removed from the game of baseball. It's almost as bad an indicator of pitcher talent as wins and quality starts. The best relief pitchers in the game do not necessarily have a lot of saves and it would be irresponsible to judge a "closer" on how many saves he has and how few blown saves he has. Fernando Rodney is absolute trash and shouldn't be in the mlb.
Please feel free to laugh at my stupidity guys, or if you feel I might be right about some of these things let me know.
Dude I never said shifting was useless I just said the time it takes for a position player to move from that location
To field the ball or to the bag it's too much. Can cause errors or let a ball go into play which can be fieled. Every ms counts when the ball is in play.
Give them that exact scenario you typed out on facebook about a specific with quality start and his stats.
Inning by inning.
Managers like Bruce Bochy aren't gonna sit on the bench and watch that happen.
That's not why they get paid to do.
They get paid to throw signs to first base coach etc. For guys on first to take a lead to ensure the 1b stays near the bag for man a first 0 out. Sometimes a pretty big one if they can slide back to bag good during an attempt pick off. And 2nd batter to hit accordingly given different counts like sometimes they take a ball or a strike for the steal of the lead off from first to second. Some times they can bunt for a ball in play. Have you not seen some guys in majors they can lay down a perfect in play bunt. 3rd hitter are paid to hit and a good one can adjust they don't have to pull necessary to give in to the shift but like a slap away. To get a sure single instead of swinging for fences with man on 1st and 3rd 0 out man on corners.
Naw they get paid to put together a lineup card and make the in game decisions in regards to player substitutions. As stated in my paragraph, in game managing such as throwing a signal to first base to steal or throw down a bunt or take a bigger lead off is pretty much obsolete in the mlb today and for good reason.
Mlb players don't need some nitpicky disrupting manager with a superiority complex who manages based on hunches, they need pre game preparation from coaches, scouting reports and gameplans based on specific player matchups and they need to execute those gameplans.
I agree with all of that, Spencer, especially what you wrote about managers. You nailed it.