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Originally Posted by Da Gyps
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Originally Posted by Spencer 555
I can't believe Sixers are down in this series 3-1. Easily should be 2-2 or 3-1 philly. Great season so far for this young team. Can't wait for one of LBJ, PG13, Kawhi, or Thompson to come here next year :)
Oh man, that would be sick. I'm hopping on that Philly bandwagon if u don't mind.
As much as I love Embiid, his usage needs to come down a bit. He's at 32% and should be around 25. I would want the ball in the hands of Simmons more.
Embiid is fine, just needs to shoot less 3's lol. He needs to get his conditioning up. Simmons I liked playing off the ball a bit more. He just needs to grow a pair and start shooting. Even if he misses law of averages say he'll make a few lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spencer 555
I dunno man, 33% is kobe/Westbrook territory. Shaq in all his ball hoggy greatness never posted a usage rate as high as embiid's was this year in his entire career. The offense is not as good when the ball flows through him evidenced by the 15+ game win streak while he was injured.
I'm not saying embiid is a problem at all, on the contrary, I think hes the best player on the team. But if he was more consistently a third option scorer, I think the Sixers will reach their ceiling.
This Celtics team is so fun to watch. Just hope they can keep it rolling, squashing LeBron would be so fun. Then maybe see if can win a game against Golden State in the finals.
It's great being a fan of the young/underdog team, I can't be disappointed, they've already surpassed expectations. Now it's just seeing how long they can keep it rolling.
The Celtics are never an underdog team :/
I'm with ya 3k, this has been an absurdly fun season to watch. Every time you think this team is reaching their ceiling, somebody else steps up and we pull another win out of thin air. I can't wait to see how we play these next two games on the road, if we can manage to steal one it's pretty much a done deal.
It's hard not to like the celtics. But I proudly dislike them and am rooting for the Cavs because I'm a petty bitch and won't accept that the Celtics are better then the raptors without kyrie/hayword.
I'll be rooting for u guys and the Sixers to beat LeBron next year tho. If he stays.. which I think he will.
Alabama won in 2010, and Lebron didn't make the conference finals.
you gotta admit that graphic is still pretty nutsQuote:
Originally Posted by KBHoleN1
also he is back in the finals now. to anyone who thought boston would win, i only have one thing to say to you:
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What's that?
Click this to see what blud posted. For some reason it didn’t link the gif for display, that site must block hotlinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spencer 555
Lol is this a joke? I keep seeing skaip.org
Ha, now when I click it I see skaip.org as well. I don't know what's wrong, I thought mine linked directly to the image, not a hotlink. It was a laughing emoji with tears coming out.
Oh well
damnit all how could they take that away from me
Skaip.org the evil empire
LET'S FUCKING GO WARRIORS
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no Kawhi talk here!??! where's prof at?
Ya the nba thread pretty much died without u, deto, prof and manon :(
can't wait for midnight!
Canada day
Good week for Oklahoma. We passed medical marijuana and resigned Paul George. Now if only Melo could disappear somehow.
LeBron to Lakers, 4 year deal. I don't think he makes it to the Finals with the Lakers. I think this season was peak LeBron, but it might be about the last time he could drag a team to the Finals in the East. He certainly can't drag a team to the Finals in the West, and I don't think the Lakers get it together fast enough to utilize peak LeBron and overcome the Warriors and Rockets in the same year. Maybe I'm way off, but I think the West is going to eat LeBron alive come playoffs.
EDIT: And by LeBron, I don't mean him specifically, I mean the team he's on. LeBron hero ball works in the East playoffs, but he can't do that in the West. Maybe if the Lakers swing Kawhi right now, the Lakers could do some damage this year, but I don't think LeBron's window for another championship is very large. He'll be 34 this year. I think he's starting to lose his legs, as he's been pushing his shots closer and closer to the basket as the playoffs wear on. I just don't think this is going to work out like Lakers fans think it will.
I'm hopeful you're right KB. As much as I'd like to see someone compete with the warriors moving forward, I don't expect the lake show to be that emergent team. I guess we'll see though, it certainly doesn't seem like there is any hope for this year unless the Celtics and Sixers get their shit together.
Depressing offseason for the sixers thus far besides Reddick. Wish Kawhi would've been willing to come here.
I don't dig deeply into trade values and stuff, and know very little about NBA player values. I'm curious what Spencer thinks about this. Are you excited to get Kawhi? Seems like a good deal getting Danny and not having to give up OG. Defense is going to be legit. How long do you think Kawhi plans to stay in Toronto?Quote:
Spurs have agree to trade Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green to Toronto for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN. Trade call with league office is starting shortly.
Lots to digest here.
Raptors direction and goals:
Prior to this trade, the raptors had a clear goal in mind: reach the nba finals. They've been trying to get over the hump for several years now with the same core to no avail, and I think even with LeBron leaving the conference, that core was not likely going to beat the Sixers or Celtics unless everything went right.
So that being said, I think this trade really took that into consideration. Masai handed Derozan a 5 year contract to get things done with Lowry and Ibaka, and he decided after year 2 of this contract that they weren't going to get it done.
Frankly, I completely agree with him.
I think in a worst case scenario, Masai just traded the bloated contract of a player he evaluated as not being good enough to reach "the goal", for 1 last chance at glory. By extension, if Kawhi walks, we speed up the rebuilding process (this is a good thing).
In the coming years, I think, the raptors will have some excellent young players to pass the torch too (wright, siakam, og, vanvleet), a ton of cap space and financial flexibility and some aging assets become much more valuable on the trade market in case of a salary dump (think Lowry for a couple overpaid scrub type deals). If we just kept paddling our boat during this 5 year window, I think we would probably realise soon that we are being passed by younger teams while also losing those young assets to free agency and not maximizing the trade value of our aging role players.
The fact that masai was able to maximize the value of this specific deal by also getting Danny Green (solid role player) instead of say Patty Mills in order to balance the money. The fact that he maximized the value of the deal by trading our "third center" (behind Valanciunas and Ibaka) Jakob Peoltl instead of our young SF/PFs OG Anunoby or Pascal Siakam.. I think it really shows how much consideration was put into this deal. If not Danny Green and Jakob, the deal just isn't "perfect" in terms of maximizing our chances THIS year and by extension... just wouldn't have made sense to me for the raptors.
For the spurs, I think they will be happy that they were able to get a decent pretty decent package for their disgruntled star who was set to leave at the end of the season. I think the goal in spurs land is to extend their playoff run another couple years while rebuilding and I think acquiring an all star, a promising potential starting centre and a first round pick accomplishes that goal.
Considering all of this, I think its a win win deal on paper even.
Potential disaster scenario:
Demar Derozan is essentially the GOAT in toronto. He pretty much single handedly built the culture of this team.
Hard work and dedication: He was a gym rat, and lead by example. Through hard work and perseverance, he improved his game every single year that he was with our team and showed all of our young players how to act.
Loyalty and Comeraderie: The first all star to rep Toronto as a viable destination in the NBA. He was loyal to a fault, and always the good guy in the locker room. Over the course of 9 years on the team, Demar (along with Lowry and Amir Johnson) really kept the drama in Toronto to a minimum. You never heard of any hostility or bullshit between players on our team and you never heard of guys going out to clubs... it was very team/family first.
Backstabbing Demar and bringing in Kawhi... a player who comes with some baggage and is becoming more known as a guy who doesn't play well with others. Lowry has a very volatile personality and we just fucked over his best friend. I think there may be some real chemistry issues with this team despite the raised ceiling and some real potential for toxicity both in the short term and long term. The feel good, underdog culture is almost assuredly dead.
Maybe Raptors flip Kawhi to Philly for future assets....praying lol
That would be insanity lol
I think Indiana is gonna be better then people give them credit. Oladipo really emerged as a top 15-20 talent last year and Tyreke Evans will be a nice addition their alongside him. Kyle Oquinn is a really solid backup C as well. I like the under the radar moves. If Myles Turner can show some marked improvement, Indiana will be very good.
For as much as people are hating on the east, I think there are 4 legit contenders here and probably only 2-3 in the West. It's just top heavy really.
So the Kawhi Leonard trade has me all excited again for the NBA season. So here's another one of my famous crazy trade ideas that works.
Raptors get:
Jimmy Butler - Gorgui Dieng
Timberwolves get:
Serge Ibaka - OG Anunoby - Delon Wright - Norm Powell - 2021 1st round pick
Reasoning: So from the raptors perspective, it's obvious. We dump Ibaka's salary and get one of the best 2 way wings in the league along with a pretty underrated backup C on meh contract.
From the Timberwolves perspective, they get an abundance of talented young players to help bolster their team around Wiggins and KAT, they get a potential lottery pick in the very promising 2021 draft (they're opening it back up to highschool players) if the raptors end up not being able to resign kawhi and butler, and they get to roll the dice on Ibaka meshing well with KAT.
Raptors:
PG: Lowry - Vanvleet - Brown
SG: Butler - Green - Richardson
SF: Leonard - Miles
PF: Siakam
C: Valanciunas - Dieng - Nogueira
Timberwolves:
PG: Teague - Jones - Rose
SG: Wiggins - Wright
SF: ﹰAnunoby - Powell
PF: Ibaka - Gibson - Tolliver
C: KAT - Patton
I actually think the added depth and defensive support at the wing would allow wiggy to play at his natural position and possibly unlock his offensive potential by hiding him more on defense.
Warriors depth at center is sparse... Demarcus Cousins can’t get back healthy soon enough. Ohh and Thompson remembered how to shoot again finally.
Simmons needs to start shooting. I don't care if he misses alot but needs to start getting more confidence.
Get beat by Raptors again....EB goes out and gets Tobias lol. Love the starting lineup. Ready to see what buyout players end up here this year to fill out the bench.
Simmons, Redick, Butler, Harris, Embiid
Sixers still need a bench but that starting 5 is fire. Harris is a 50/40/90 player shooting 43.4% from 3 this season. He's the perfect fit for Philly. And Boban is a decent back-up for Jo. Can't wait for the eastern conference playoffs.
Never too late to hop on the 76ers bandwagon!Quote:
Originally Posted by manonfire101