http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...d-raiders-otas
Calvin Johnson is joining the Raiders OTAs. Could you imagine having a WR squad with Megatron, Cooper, and Crabtree? Hulky must be salivating.
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...d-raiders-otas
Calvin Johnson is joining the Raiders OTAs. Could you imagine having a WR squad with Megatron, Cooper, and Crabtree? Hulky must be salivating.
so when is fantasy starting
we figured we would just start it after the season this year
Can renew it whenever. Got the email to do it a month or so ago but figured renewing is probably best around July so it's not a buried email for everyone.
yeah i was joking lol, i'm just excited for this season. i feel like there's a lot of different ways things can break and it's less of a sure thing than a lot of years
we also should get on the rules changes propositions earlier this year if we actually want to make changes and discuss them/vote
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...as-city-chiefs
Maclin could be a decent fit for a few teams. Hell he's only 29 years old.
Maybe a team without WRs like the 49ers lol
Maclin was pretty awful last year
Derek Carr #1 highest paid player in the leagggggue
Derek Carr just inadvertently fucked every other team with stud QBs.
Unpopular opinion: Derek Carr doesn't deserve to be the highest paid player in the league.
Aaron Rodgers deserves to be #1, but that's the problem with setting the standard with a long term deal - the cap improves and your deal becomes the baseline. Rodgers probably will reclaim #1 when he's up. Cousins, Stafford probably use Carr's deal to negotiate. I'd think Stafford becomes the top paid player, because who else are the Lions paying, he's due for contract, he's still young, has insane stats and comeback success in current system.
My thing is body of work needs to define paychecks. Carr is great for the raiders. Just think that he needs another season or two for that kind of monehy
Carr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanosuke
year 1: 58.1% 3270yd 21td 12int
year 2: 61.1% 3987yd 32td 13int
year 3: 63.8% 3937yd 28td 06int
$25,000,000 avg in second contract
Wilson:
year 1: 64.1 3118yd 26td 10int
year 2: 63.1 3357yd 26td 09int
year 3: 63.1 3475yd 20td 07int
year 4: $31,722,469
year 5: $12,342,000
year 6: $12,600,000
year 7: $15,500,000
year 8: $17,000,000
$17,832,893.8 avg in second contract
2015 (year of Wilson's 2nd contract) salary cap: $143.28 million
2017 (year of Carr's 2nd contract) salary cap: $167 million
roughly a 16.5% increase
and 17.8m to 25m is roughly a 40% increase
Carr did good lol. Prolly should have gotten about $21m a year to match inflation, but that could also just mean Seattle has Wilson on a discounted rate.
Carr is a stud for sure. The contract is expensive, but top-notch quarterbacks can almost command whatever they want at this point. While Carr sets the market now, the upcoming quarterback contracts will surely follow suite and the difference between having Carr versus an above average QB is surely worth the extra millions. IMO, if you have a quarterback that you believe can carry your franchise for years to come, then you lock him down for whatever the price is.
One won a super bowl. Can't do anything about Carr getting hurt but I don't think Oakland makes it past NE or ATL anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulky
Oakland won a ton of close games last year. That's a tough thing to replicate. I think they're a good young team, but I'm not all in.
By the way, I know that it's generally accepted that the NFL Top 100 is a joke. But there is something this year that bugs me... and yeah call me a Giants fan or whatever but I'll be totally honest with you this isn't even about division beef. I'll also admit it's not the dumbest thing on the list by a longshot but it does really bother me. The fact that Ezekiel Elliott was ranked above David Johnson and Le'Veon Bell on the Top 100 is pretty fucking absurd to me. I have no argument with him being in the top 10, he's a great player. I really do believe he's an excellent player and I'm not trying to take that away from him. But if you throw on his highlights or the highlights of one of the other guys, watch the difference in how many wide open lanes he has to run through, and how much more effort the other two put into making big gains. Le'Veon has a pretty good O Line himself but David Johnson was practically a one man show... ridiculous that he was left out of the top 10. This is just more media sensationalism at its finest, and the Cowboys having a bigger fanbase showing through here. And like I said you can try to call me out for being biased here or whatever but I take no offense that Odell Beckham is the 3rd WR on the list. If anything I'm more flabbergasted that David Johnson is outside the top 10, but there's no way Elliott was a better player than these other 2 guys last year. If you wanna project him ahead going forward I take no issue, but man I really get sick of the big media markets getting all the love sometimes
Yeah Wilson won a SB but SB really hasn't been priced into QB contracts. Like Dalton never won a playoff game either and he got basically 100 mil. Brock wasn't worth starting and got 4y/72mil. Sam Bradford made over 25mil his second year in the league lol.
A lot of Oakland's issues last year (and the year before) were that we couldn't stop TEs. Hopefully Obi Melifonwu will help with that, we also added a very good rookie corner in Gareon Conley if Sean Smith takes a step back, but either way it let's the Raiders have CB depth to not force Sean Smith to poorly match against guys like Brandin Cooks. Basically every TE hosed Oakland, and if Obi is half the player most people think he is that should improve. Also Raiders played most of the year without our second best defender Mario Edwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by bludhoundz
To the Top 100 thing, I think it's voted on by the players not the media. Like obviously the players hear in the media, but they also actually played against the guys and have the videos.
Yeah but JJ Watt was #35 or somethin
lol thats way dumber than the stuff I was complaining about
Raiders draft class of Khalil, Carr and Jackson (1, 2, 3) is about to be a 1/4 billion in their second contracts lol
Wilson and Flacco is basically what im getting at. Got paid for SB wins and that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulky
If Wilson and Flacco's careers and stats were exactly the same but without the SB wins, their contracts would be no different.
wilson is way better than flacco
Yes, but they would both have received giant contracts even if they'd lost the Superbowls instead of won.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdog1321
Ravens coulda tagged and traded Flacco and extended Tyrod Taylor on the cheap. If they did it for future picks, they could have got someone like Khalil Mack, Odell Beckham Jr, Aaron Donald, or Anthony Barr pretty easily.
I bought one of the nice stitched jerseys today. Like the kind that are like $200.
It was a Browns Brady Quinn jersey, which I've wanted since that draft class. I was in bootcamp during the draft and realllllllly wanted the Raiders to draft Brady Quinn over Jamarcus Russell. The Quinn jersey was in stores around the country for like a week that I saw and I held off and never saw another again.
Anyways saw one today. I asked how much. He said "is that a Browns jersey?". I said yes, he said "I dunno, $10?".
Sold.
you're more hipster than SoD
lol
do you guys think that Zeke is gonna get suspended?
Prolly not
of course
He should be.
http://i.imgur.com/hr9Mqw2.jpg
derek carr ranks 25/25 in y/a on the list of qbs that have thrown for over 1500 passes since 2012. look at the people he's behind. i'm a little shocked how bad that is
But his TD and INT numbers are pretty good, which puts him middle of the pack in rating.
Evident of Carr having better pocket awareness to be quite fair, considering the bulkhead of the raiders rb corps combined for 83 receptions last year for the 357 completions. Screens, dump offs, etc. I'm curious what those averages would be to other QBs on that list who don't regularly do that if nothing is downfield would look like.
DangerRuss at the top.
It's from Carr's rookie year when the OC wouldn't let him throw down field (because of talent level of the team, James Jones and like Denarius Moore were the top two WR and MJD/DMC was the RB [MJD like 1ypc and DMC was like 3ypc, Murray played the KC game and was awesome, but left hurt]). Just watch any of those games to see it. It's gone from 5.5 his rookie year to 7.0 the last two years. Seven is pretty good given our system as a west coast power blocking team, Favre is 7.1 career for example with a similar offensive scheme. The zone blocking Shanahan/Kubiak/Gibbs type thing usually has a higher Y/A for example Matt Ryan went from 7-7.5 to a 9.3 last year. Matt Schaub was an 8-8.5 under Kubiak/Shanny and went to a 6-7 when he left that system.
Yeah all you have to do is watch Carr to know he is good. Also still super young.
Hey Hulky, wanted to say thank you to the raiders for a good stop gap back.