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I mean I know like /why/ it happens. I guess it was moreso rhetoric than anything. I just don't understand. If I go get a DUI, I flush the past 6 years I've spent in the army down the toilet and get kicked out. Hell, if I'm even late two-three times in one month or late once a month every month or something I'll get demoted, my money taken for a few paychecks and get my off time taken from me.
I know why they're held to different standards. It's just annoying that they are. I don't expect everyone to be a model citizen and be the cleanest guy on the block like JJ Watt or Von Miller or something, I just want the NFL to take ownership or something. Imagine how much of an impact it might have on society if something as big as the NFL literally fired people like other companies do to their employees when they screw up, get DUIs, beat their spouse, late to work often, etc.
Von Miller was suspended for drugs in like 2013, so if it were military standards even on him he'd most likely be gone.
Breaking the law is breaking the law. If an NFL player commits a crime punishable by prison and there's enough evidence to convict him, he'll go to prison. Just like if you or I did.
If he stays out of prison it's because he has more money/better lawyers/resources than you or I, like any rich person. Welcome to America.
Aside from that, being annoyed that an NFL player is held to a different standard or code at his work than a normal person is at his work, is silly. You can call the fairness police or shake your fist at the sky but these are entertainers worth millions in an industry worth billions.
I could be the best in the entire world at my job, but still nobody would pay to watch me do it.
have you watched a Twitch stream before?
if anything, Twitch has taught me that if your tits are big enough, people will watch you do anything
I don't have big tits.
I think for the NFL to even entertain this idea, they would need hard evidence, preferably video evidence too. Domestic violence in general has long been one of the most underpenalized crimes in this country though (which sickens me), so yeah.
Damn.
Spot on.
It's just reality. The better you are at your job, the more lenient your boss is going to be. If you are easily replaceable well there's the door. Notice how Ray Rice just kind of faded away because he was also starting to suck at football.
So true. Doesn't matter how bad they are at the game either. Female and attractive? GET DEM VIEWS/SUBS/BITS/MONEY.
That's awesome.
Blake Bortles about to lose his job to Chad Henne.
Seahawks lost their starting left tackle yesterday. Season ending ACL tear in a fucking preseason game. Lol. I hate preseason so much.
theres no fucking way that guy was your starting left tackle.
a second year undrafted free agent that just played tackle for the first time in the NFL?
They really didn't make a plan to upgrade that this offseason?
How is Russell Wilson alive?
It's okay they still have their trump card - the 16th ranked center in the NFL.
And luke joeckel
Yeah Wilson ded
Would be surprised if the Seahawks won more than 6 games this year tbh. Not to shit on them but their line is abysmal, running game is meh, and Wilson can only really throw it to himself at this point.
I feel like Pete Carroll just got lucky with his personnel during the Super Bowl contender years and is actually a shit coach.
49ers Colts (no Luck potentially) Rams 49ers Jags Rams
is on there schedule for 6-0 most likely anything under 9 wins is kinda odd and 9 or 10 wins is expected I'd think
That's those six teams and like NFC East, Texans, Cards x2 isn't hard to find 3 wins. Cards are late in the year too so Carson, Johnson and or Fitz could be broken down by then.
You're smoking crack. Seattle will win the NFC West easily and enter the playoffs as the #1 or #2 seed.
Wilson had a high ankle sprain in the very first game last year that probably should have cost him half the season. He couldn't run, couldn't plant to throw. Couldn't do shit. I believe he's the only QB in the league that could have played through it. We were still a playoff team.
He's healthy now. Seattle will be significantly better this year.
I also think it's weird when people say things like "Not to shit on the Seahawks" right before shitting on the Seahawks, or try to sound objective when it's clear their criticism is emotionally driven.
I mean how can you say Pete Carroll is a shit football coach when he's won championships at both the college and pro level? How? How am I supposed to take that comment seriously? How is anyone?
And how can you say Seattle is a bad team who just got lucky when they've won at least 10 games and been in the playoffs each of the last 5 seasons including 2 Super Bowl appearances? What are you even talking about? I don't even believe you believe that. You might want it to be true, but that's something different.
It's ok to say fuck Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. It really is. People say it all the time now and I totally understand why. But saying that they all suck is just not true, and really pretty stupid.
Doesn't have 5+ super bowl wins, obviously a shit coach. :rolleyes:
Pete's coaching tree went to the SB last year too (Dan Quinn), and he has two DCs Gus Bradley on the Chargers and Ken Norton Jr on the Raiders. Pete's 4-3 Under is my favorite scheme ever, and Shanahan/Gibbs ZBS attack is my favorite offense. Basically 49ers have my favorite scheme this upcoming year.
Pete Carroll had the pedigree of USC's draw for recruits. If you watched any amount of college football you'd understand why that's significant.
And I literally have no vendetta against the Seahawks, and for you to say it's 'emotionally driven' is kind of funny. Who even said the Seahawks got lucky? I said /Pete Carroll/ got lucky. I think Russell Wilson is a good quarterback. I know why he had a down year. I just don't think they're going to be as competitive as people are saying they're going to be.
Winning 10 games a year when six of your games are against considerably weak division opponents doesn't bode well. If they swapped Divisions with the Patriots, they'd do the exact same in my mind. Seattle will probably make it to the Wild Card game for a third straight year, beat some other team that had a weak schedule, and then lose in the divisional round again. Seattle went 5-4-1 in 1 score games last year.
The 90's Braves made the playoffs 14 consecutive years but only won 1 world series. Making it to the playoffs a bunch is nice and all, but winning it all counts more, which is why the Patriots stretch over the past 5 years shits on all 31 other teams.
The Seahawks are not going to have a running game and their best receiver is Jimmy Graham. Kearse as a starting WR is silly, which is why I said Russell Wilson should basically just throw the ball to himself all year.
I think it's more effective for the QB to just maintain possession of the ball and scramble, in that situation.
Brett Favre's first NFL pass was to himself
His first pass was actually a pick-6 when he was with Atlanta. His first completion was to himself once he started with the Packers. He lost like 8 yards on the play - which speaks to my point about it being less efficient.
Yes they will have a running game. Again, much of what they do on the ground is based off Wilson's ability and threat to run and he was completely unable to do that last year. He could barely scramble for half the season. If Wilson is healthy and mobile, the Seahawks will be able to run the ball. With anyone.
Baldwin is good. Graham is healthy. Kearse sucks but he's reliable and does the dirty work. They've got some young guys coming up, but it really doesn't matter. Russell will get the ball to whoever is on the field.
You're just wrong, Sano. Seattle will make the playoffs for the 6th season in a row. You'll see.
making the playoffs and getting the 1 or 2 seed are two very different things
I highly doubt the latter will happen, but I do agree the former will
I like their schedule.
they do have one of the easiest
their team is also one of the worst, if not the worst, its been over the past years of success
Really? What if they go back to the Super Bowl? Then will it be one of the best?
Even on paper there's every reason to believe they'll be better than last season. Who did they lose? Eddie Lacey should be a nice fit for Seattle's offensive style and, I'll say it again, Russell Wilson is healthy. People just don't appreciate what he was dealing with last season as far as injury, and he still threw for 4,200 yards.
Seattle will be one of the best teams in the league this year.
Lacy isn't even probably gonna start it looks like. Prosise didn't look that good either. And if the OLine is weaker, there isn't much of a threat for Wilson to scramble, and if Wilson has to scramble often, he'll risk injury again, which will once again make the team worse. Doug Baldwin had his very first 1k yard season. Hardly "with anyone he's good" status.
I'd expect a fan of the team to be super vehement though, something about emotions or whatever.
It's logic, Sano. I'm telling you they're averaging 11 wins a season over the last 5 and you're telling me they might win 6.
I'm not going to argue whether or not Wilson might get hurt again if he has to scramble. That's silly. He scrambles. He might or might not get hurt, like any player.
The Seahawks have too much talent and experience, not to mention a favorable schedule, to call for a 6 win season or anything close to it. That's why I said it was stupid.
I personally think the Cardinals are underrated and have a very fair chance at winning that Division.
They are good, but Carson Palmer turns 38 this season. A fast decline has to be coming.
As long as he holds up I think he'll be fine. He should probably retire after this year though. His arm strength is still good. Next draft will be good for QBs too for Arizona.
The Seahawks will be dangerous if they can get homefield advantage. If not, then they'll lose pretty easily as we've seen the last 2 years against Carolina (they did make it close) and Atlanta.
I think Hugh is correct that if Wilson is healthy, they'll be better than last year, and they also have an easy schedule this year. That O-Line is suspect though. Curious how they deal with that over the course of the season, especially if they lose anybody else on it.