Mostly. I am keeping tabs on new game development though.
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I just read this and I want to make a spreadsheet and rate clans by certain criteria, and put some rough write-ups down on paper for clans and most influential players/moments/people/clans. Anyone interested in teaming up with me to do that? I would need someone prominent with a good memory from the early era (before 2004) and the late era (after 2011) and the middle era (the golden era) (2004-approx. 2011). Let me know, plox.
I had a thread on that some time back, with some generic ratings. I think in my mind at least SI and NJ were a near-even tie, with NJ getting some points for being active in clan wars and SI getting some points for more longevity.
Ah well.
Every time this thread shows up in my subscription box, my eye gets a slight twitch of anger.
Oh spencer why do you hate cliché so much he's a good guy and I don't want to come between you guys.
Veil is my bodyguard.
Young TAO player me is angry about not being on the list. To be honest, I'm still too overjoyed to see old names that have posted on this board in the past year that I spent hours playing TAO with.
-SW
Okay I'll give it a shot....
TLDR:
1) I was a well known member of the community who was a clan leader for both Knights of the Round and Strategic Insomniacs.
2) I participated in all of the early tournaments but cannot recall the placements. I would defer to a better TAO historian for that, but I did also earn a 2nd Frost Golem on Rev server for my participation in one of the tourneys.
3) I've won and lost at a pretty even rate with players like Bottle, Frylock, and bludhoundz. I will say that there were times where a turtle game between Bottle and I would last hours. I have never played against a stronger and consistent turtle/grey player like Bottle.
4) I had 3 play styles I was best known for; standard gold turtle (with furgon), dropless grey, and legends grey (with double frost golem).
5) I was also an active member of a clan which may touch on some nostalgia for those who were on Banff and remember...but it was called Gold Jumpers. Basically we would look for grey jumping rush noob gold players and jump them instead as well versed greys. I think I remained anonymous mostly and played under the username Reckless_Abandon.
Here is the only snapshot I could find still there lingering as one that is viewable from the TAO web archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040502...ing/banff.html
This was a time in TAO when Banff was by far the server with the most talent and had representation from the 5 original big TAO clans of the time SI, Netjak, Tribunal, KotR, and Bludhoundz. I was 7th overall in this snapshot, and you can see some of the all time greats here on the leader board. The D brothers, Bottle, Twelve, Rantzu, Frylock, Jeffery, Big X, and many others. Many of the names on your list were still up and coming or newly gold like FryLock and Rantzu. I believe I ended up at least in the upper 1500's or lower-mid 1600's before my account went grey and I wiped, going part time to play on the Rev server with friends once and a while and eventually fading into the sunset.
When I look at the list it is hard to place myself. Being that I was never well versed with many of the Legends players, I can't argue against their qualifications. There is clear bias here, and I wish there were more active people who played against me a lot to weigh in. I also played in a time where 1600 was thought of as extremely high, and there was much less rating inflation with less players being 1400+ than later on.
High End bias pick I would say: 23 - I don't know Pikachu, but I know that at this spot there aren't specific tournament stats listed for him, and I can say with confidence that I have won against all players I recognize past this point consistently. I always had great matches up through the time I left the game against Bottle, Frylock, and Blud as previously mentioned. Aside from a few rush games from Blud and Fry, I don't recall ever being blown out in a game against them.
Middle Grade less bias pick I would say: 31 - Being ranked on a top 100 just a few spots after Draquist would be fitting as well to me. I learned a lot from both Draq and Darq as I grew as a player. They as brothers were two of my earliest friends in the game an we played tons of games against each other.
Conservative Pick: ....wait I am Say What? I would never rate myself conservatively. That is completely against my TAO persona. I'm amazing. (but realistically anywhere in the 41-45 mark makes sense for this level. I would never be able to rank myself out of the top 50. haha)
Being a part of the a recognized 100 players rankings of TAO would mean a lot to me. I'd love to get anyone's thoughts or recollections of playing against me. Even outside of just this ranking list. I miss the game, and this is a clear example of not knowing what you had before it's gone. TAO will always be a game that I could walk away from but never speak poorly of. It had ever bit of cool, and variety you could ask for in an online multiplayer turn based strategy game. Even more than that, we had the forums...our signatures...our clans. It is seeing the name Max2k106 and getting nostalgic of your first online friend. TAO was just an Epic time even as such a small part of my life.
-SW
This thread hits me with the TAO feels :')
big hairy balls advocacy
Unbiased ranking for myself -- #1
I was the best, and we all know it.
I think bludz and I only ever played turtle. This was right around the time when Magician was dominating turtle. I think bludz beat me most of the time but we've only played a handful of games. He's actually one of the only people with a winning record on me, if I recall correctly.
part of me wishes i had been better at the actual game but it's insanely irrelevant now.
getting 1500+ using just turtle on Zombie was good enough for me.
SW was definitely good. The only thing holding him back in terms of this ranking is longevity / timing. The list is kinda biased toward people who played later in the TAO era, and there's a pretty good reason for that. There were more tournaments and so it was kinda easier to really get a gauge on skill levels. Some of the stronger players early on like TCBB could probably have earned a spot in the top 10, but his skill level is more based on conjecture than hard evidence in that respect.
Also dude SW that screenshot brings back memories
and FWIW Cliche we once played a freestyle game where you brought a turtle against my anti and we had opp sides. You were crushing me so I quit early. I remember you claiming it was a flawless (technically it was since I took no pieces) but I was pretty sure I coulda gotten one piece to save face if I cared :p
Also, I tend not to bring this up because I was on the winning PSST team in PSST1 where Bottle was captain, but I am pretty sure our team cheated. I mean, we drafted some unknown kid (I forget his name, I think it was Shadow Beast) who ended up beating FryLock in grey and someone else who was pretty good. Guy basically solo'd it for us in the end and was a complete no-name. It was probably a second Bottle account, although it could have been someone else. Pretty sure a lot of people said Bottle = Guide too.... not sure if that was ever clarified or whatever, but I remember being fairly convinced of it at one point. Not that it really bothered me or anything, but yeah
Looking at this list makes me miss the rev days where manon deto prof and I would just talk mad shit lol, and of course the early days
Well I had no idea about that. I figured he was a secondary but I think secondaries in certain tournaments is common.
I'm pretty sure I was upset you quit early so I claimed flawless to piss you off. haha
Anyone remember a high ranking gray 1600+ in legends server? I remember he had a setup similar to this:
https://i.imgur.com/kkuCCPw.jpg
Terrible setup. Would crush.
lol
setup might not exactly be like that, but the guy who was using it had the highest gray rating in legends. It's bugging me that I can't remember his name
You're a loser.